Mr. Chair, there are maybe two points here. One is that what ESDC is doing is totally voluntary. It makes perfect sense. It makes good sense, because National Defence is hiring. Most public servants are aware of that and are sending their CVs or applying for jobs as they become open. That's an informal thing.
We also have formal mechanisms, because there are occasions when departments are downsizing—there's already some going on—where you can be put on a list to formally be considered for any job openings.
Maybe I'll ask my colleague, Francis, to elaborate on that.