I'll probably be able to help, because I had a question along a similar line. Maybe we'll be able to get the information drawn out.
We're hearing the idea that we could see veterans waiting up to five years to be able to get access to services, pensions and things they're entitled to. I heard a Liberal member on the other side try to characterize that this wasn't a cut to services to veterans, but when you deny someone something for five years, that affects the services to veterans. There's zero doubt about it. You said it as well.
You've laid out a few of the ideas of what can happen—not being able to pay bills or delaying medical treatments—but what does that ultimately mean? That can end up being the difference between a veteran becoming homeless or not. That can mean the difference between a veteran starting to go down a path that ends with addictions or mental health challenges, or leads to divorce from their spouse. It can actually mean the difference between life and death in some cases, because, as you can imagine, after all of that, someone could become suicidal. These are the kinds of results that denying veterans through delays of up to five years can have.
I wanted to give you a chance to expand on that a bit further. Would you agree with that assessment? What do you see? Talking to fellow members of your union, are these the kinds of results they see when veterans are waiting up to five years for these kinds of services?