Right. So when there were questions asked about increasing debt and deficits five and six years ago—or, say, after the new administration took over and said they would run some small deficits—I think debt service costs were about 7¢ or 8¢ on the dollar. You're now projecting that it goes to 14¢ on the dollar. Some people were laughed out of the room for asking questions about why we should be concerned about this, but here we are. Again, that's before we have any serious economic downturns or even a recession.
Is it fair to say that spending is at risk as debt service costs continue to increase?