Honestly, five years from now, success would be that all completed projects were completed by Canadian workers.
That enables them—because of fair wages and the prevailing wages that we offer and they're now afforded—to afford to put a down payment on a house or pay for the costs of food and whatnot. We can go into post-retirement pensions and the difference between pensions and RRSP matches and all of that, but it comes down to how we need Canadians to make money so we can spend our money here.
Yes, I represent a union. I obviously know my role, but everything we've talked about today hasn't been about being union or non-union. That's a point that I really want to make clear to everybody. We're talking here about Canadians working. Success would be that we gave five years of steady income to workers. That, to me, would be success. Also, if we weren't able to fill that, then we would have been able to reach out, get support from our free trade partners and enable them to help us. To me, that would be success in five years.