Evidence of meeting #46 for Government Operations and Estimates in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was aluminum.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Ryan  Parliamentary Budget Officer, Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer
Nicol  Advisor-Analyst, Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer
Cloutier  Quebec Director, Unifor
Laramée  Chief Executive Officer, Quebec Aluminum Industrial Cluster
Marcil  Vice-President, Public Affairs and Communications, Alstom

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Do they have public reports of your buy Canadian content?

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Vice-President, Public Affairs and Communications, Alstom

Olivier Marcil

To my knowledge, they have reports on every investment they make for every client they have in Canada.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Do they have reports on Canadian content issues?

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Vice-President, Public Affairs and Communications, Alstom

Olivier Marcil

Yes, they do on Canadian content and any of the other metrics where they are tracking part of their investment.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

What percentage of the supported work occurred in Canada?

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Vice-President, Public Affairs and Communications, Alstom

Olivier Marcil

Could you repeat the question?

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

What percentage of the work that was supported by EDC occurred in Canada?

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Vice-President, Public Affairs and Communications, Alstom

Olivier Marcil

I don't have the answer to that specifically.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

How about what percentage occurred outside of Canada?

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Vice-President, Public Affairs and Communications, Alstom

Olivier Marcil

I don't have the answer to that either. You're very specific in your questions. I'm happy to come back to the committee—

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Yes, because it's a buy Canada study.

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Vice-President, Public Affairs and Communications, Alstom

Olivier Marcil

—with the response.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Please do. Thank you.

If a project receives EDC support, is there a minimum Canadian content requirement?

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Vice-President, Public Affairs and Communications, Alstom

Olivier Marcil

There are metrics that Alstom needs to track and report to EDC. They could be of all sorts, and they include growth and jobs created in Canada.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Right, but is there a Canadian content requirement? This is a buy Canada study.

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Vice-President, Public Affairs and Communications, Alstom

Olivier Marcil

The EDC agreement is not directly related to the buy Canada act. It's not related. EDC is for export markets. Buy Canada is about building in Canada. Those are two different things.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Yes, I understand that, but you're using Canadian money, and we're asking right here at a buy Canada study what kind of Canadian content we have.

How do Canadians track what they get out of buy Canadian content? Should Parliament be able to measure the Canadian economic return generated by this partnership?

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Vice-President, Public Affairs and Communications, Alstom

Olivier Marcil

I think you do. I don't know if it's through this committee, but in other committees, EDC comes and reports on their activities.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

What due diligence does Alstom conduct to ensure that workers in its global supply chain are not being exploited or working illegally? I understand that you're very heavily involved in China. I think you have 11 projects there.

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Vice-President, Public Affairs and Communications, Alstom

Olivier Marcil

We're in 60 countries all around the world. We have strong ethics—

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

I'm specifically asking what your due diligence requirements are.

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Vice-President, Public Affairs and Communications, Alstom

Olivier Marcil

We have due diligence, and it is public.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

What are they?

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Vice-President, Public Affairs and Communications, Alstom

Olivier Marcil

We have a policy.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Where do you report?