Thank you. In our office, we actually developed the guidelines that define BMI and the importance of waist circumference as a measure, because it certainly is central adiposity that increases risk.
The issue of BMI was simply to say to you that the energy requirement formulas are driven by height and weight and activity. In order to make sure the pattern of eating that we were providing did not provide more energy than one could term appropriate, we used the BMI of the mid-point of a normal weight with the measured heights from the CCHS data that relate to Canadians in order to anchor ourselves and just be sure that the energy that's being delivered is not excessive.
I would also say to you that the energy being delivered absolutely depends on what's chosen. And to the comment that you can't ignore ketchup, it's absolutely right that you can't ignore ketchup. You need to be able to look at the pattern and say that by following this pattern, with modest amounts of condiments, we'll say, you're going to be anchored in a pattern that's not going to contribute to excess energy. Now that I've said that, if you start pouring sauces on everything you eat, that's excess energy.