Evidence of meeting #39 for Health in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was school.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Kelly Stone  Director, Childhood and Adolescence, Centre for Health Promotion, Public Health Agency of Canada
Joan Katz  Director, Education Planning and Policy, Education Branch, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
Heather McKay  Principal Investigator, Action Schools! BC; Professor, University of British Columbia; Director, Vancouver Coastal Health Research Institute
Farida Gabbani  Senior Director, Office of Health Promotion, Sport and Recreation Division, Nova Scotia Department of Health
Andrea Grantham  Executive Director, Canadian Association for Health, Physical Education, Recreation and Dance
Marie-France Lamarche  Director, Chronic Disease Prevention, Community Programs Directorate, First Nations and Inuit Health Branch, Department of Health

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Bonnie Brown Liberal Oakville, ON

I have a couple of questions that would probably take a yes or a no answer.

Ms. Gabbani, you mentioned that healthy weight is a better term than obesity because healthy weight includes underweight, which could be from lack of food or it could be teenage girls with anorexia and that sort of thing.

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Senior Director, Office of Health Promotion, Sport and Recreation Division, Nova Scotia Department of Health

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Liberal

Bonnie Brown Liberal Oakville, ON

Do you think we should be commenting in our report on underweight, as opposed to limiting it to obesity? Just answer yes or no.

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Senior Director, Office of Health Promotion, Sport and Recreation Division, Nova Scotia Department of Health

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Liberal

Bonnie Brown Liberal Oakville, ON

Do you have any information that you've been collecting on underweight that you could send to us?

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Senior Director, Office of Health Promotion, Sport and Recreation Division, Nova Scotia Department of Health

Farida Gabbani

I'd have to check with my colleagues. If I do, I will send it to you.

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Liberal

Bonnie Brown Liberal Oakville, ON

Thank you very much.

On CAHPERD, Andrea Grantham, what is your budget this year, and how much do you really need to accomplish your goals?

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Executive Director, Canadian Association for Health, Physical Education, Recreation and Dance

Andrea Grantham

That's a big question. Our budget this year to date is $1.6 million. Three-quarters of that has been generated by us through corporate sponsorship and through our own revenue generation.

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Liberal

Bonnie Brown Liberal Oakville, ON

You've raised 75%.

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Executive Director, Canadian Association for Health, Physical Education, Recreation and Dance

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Liberal

Bonnie Brown Liberal Oakville, ON

Excellent. Do you have a figure for what you'd really want to drive the thing forward to get to ISO 9000?

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Executive Director, Canadian Association for Health, Physical Education, Recreation and Dance

Andrea Grantham

We could definitely put together a complete wish list of what we'd like to achieve in our budget. We've never really had the option to be able to do that.

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Liberal

Bonnie Brown Liberal Oakville, ON

It would be interesting for us to know, if you could do that bit of work for us.

We've heard a lot about the connection between poverty and obesity. My colleague across the way has been touting the importance of the tax deduction for enrolment in sport and dance. Do you really think it's very effective for people who are poor and don't have the initial money to enrol their kids in sport or dance?

Would anybody like to wander into that political area?

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Senior Director, Office of Health Promotion, Sport and Recreation Division, Nova Scotia Department of Health

Farida Gabbani

I would. Nova Scotia has had a tax incentive in place. This is now our second year. The uptake was phenomenal, and 30% of the children under the age of 19 in Nova Scotia claimed that money.

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Liberal

Bonnie Brown Liberal Oakville, ON

How many of those families would be considered poor? Is it not pretty well directed at the middle class?

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Senior Director, Office of Health Promotion, Sport and Recreation Division, Nova Scotia Department of Health

Farida Gabbani

No. I want to say that there are so many other programs in place that no one program is going to make the difference.

Kidsport is a program in which low-income children can get funding to participate in sport.

In Nova Scotia, we made an agreement with community services that children in care didn't have to do income statements. If they were in care, they could automatically be funded for sport.

There are also many community organizations. In Nova Scotia, we've created chapters. There's Kidsport, JumpStart, which is the Canadian Tire program, and local programs in Wolfville, for instance, such as Axe Reach. The university has one too.

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Liberal

Bonnie Brown Liberal Oakville, ON

Excuse me. I didn't ask you about other kinds of programs. I asked you this. Do you think the tax deduction, where parents have to put money upfront to get a tax deduction when they file in the spring, is going to have much of an impact on low-income families?

I didn't ask about the wonderful programs you're doing in Nova Scotia.

You had a doctor as your premier, and now you have a minister.

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Senior Director, Office of Health Promotion, Sport and Recreation Division, Nova Scotia Department of Health

Farida Gabbani

No, they're national programs.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Actually, Ms. Brown, you ask the questions, and they do the answering.

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Liberal

Bonnie Brown Liberal Oakville, ON

Yes, but she didn't answer my question.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

It doesn't matter. She answered it in the best way she knew.

I will allow you a quick answer, and then I'm going to give Mr. Dykstra a minute.

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Executive Director, Canadian Association for Health, Physical Education, Recreation and Dance

Andrea Grantham

Our feeling on the federal tax credit is that it's great to see the government has recognized that physical activities are important. However, as has been stated a few times, it is a small step in a big picture of many activities that need to take place.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Thank you very much.

Mr. Dykstra.

February 14th, 2007 / 5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

I think you're right. I think all of you would agree it's a first step in the right direction.

You don't agree, Heather?

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Principal Investigator, Action Schools! BC; Professor, University of British Columbia; Director, Vancouver Coastal Health Research Institute

Dr. Heather McKay

I think it's part of a solution. There is limited access to these kinds of programs based not only on income, but on geographic location. So it is benefiting a certain population.