Evidence of meeting #43 for Health in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was general.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mrs. Carmen DePape

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

Well, I think what—

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Is it that the motion be deferred until after the CDR hearings?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

That's right, after the hearings. It supports the intent of the motion, but it's that it take place after we've actually had the four sessions for the review.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

The clerk is having difficulty in actually getting the wording down so that we can defer this motion, or change the wording in such a way that we would examine this.

Or are you just saying that we will ask the Auditor General to review it after we've listened to the hearings? I think that is the amendment that would be appropriate.

3:50 p.m.

The Clerk of the Committee Mrs. Carmen DePape

To write a letter to the Auditor General after the study?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Yes, after we do the study.

3:50 p.m.

The Clerk

That's fine.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

At least we're not prejudging before we've heard, which I think adds some credibility to it.

The discussion now is on the amendment.

Yes, Carolyn.

February 28th, 2007 / 3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

I don't see it as a friendly amendment.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

No, it's not a friendly amendment.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

I feel, speaking to the amendment, that it means that the study's different. I think what Madame Gagnon is saying is that the study might take a different track if we knew the answer to what the Auditor General thinks about this thing.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

I don't think we're going to get an Auditor General's report on CDR within the next month.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

Well, I still don't think there's any problem in her looking at it.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

No, and that's fine; I don't think there's argument there. I think all we're arguing about is the timing.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Carolyn Bennett Liberal St. Paul's, ON

The job is about value for money, right?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Fair enough.

Yes, Madame Gagnon. You're speaking on the amendment, is that right?

3:50 p.m.

Bloc

Christiane Gagnon Bloc Québec, QC

Before we vote, I would like to say that The Best Medicines Coalition is very interested in the motion that I have tabled today. They deplore this situation. We must go and find out how this organization operates and obtain real answers. Mr. Chair, you know that this committee will not be given the answers. Health Canada cannot give us an answer. An independent organization manages the review. We want to find out how this independent organization spends its money, what kind of management it has, how effective it is. That is what we did with Health Canada and how we discovered certain truths that were never revealed to this committee. It is an altogether different type of inquiry.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Okay, we understand the position. I'm going to put the amendment to the question.

(Amendment negatived)

(Motion agreed to)

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Steven Fletcher Conservative Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia, MB

Can we go for a recorded vote on that?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

It's too late.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Steven Fletcher Conservative Charleswood—St. James—Assiniboia, MB

Can we note that it's not unanimous?

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

On division. Fair enough.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Rob Merrifield

Let's move in camera now.

[Proceedings continue in camera]