I appreciated the comments you made.
I've been struggling with some of the testimony we've had. We know that we don't want our family practitioners to be burdened with more paperwork that doesn't have value. We know that we ask them now, if we need CPP, if we need insurance claims, to do a lot of paperwork that doesn't necessarily contribute to our health and that wastes our time. And that's very difficult in a time when we know that we have a lack of medical professionals.
But you made a point, I think, that if we structure this properly, this could be a very useful tool on both ends. You could have an electronic system that helps you in prescribing, as it did the pharmacist in Madame Lefebvre's mother's case. It could help you in prescribing and also make it very easy for you to report incidents without having to worry about whether they're significant or not significant. In the case of the jaundice situation you were talking about, you could have reported that case. It would have been two keystrokes rather than you having to spend an hour typing out a report. I think that would be useful, with the proper analysis.
It seems to me that with the initiatives we're taking on the Canada Health Infoway and with those investments being made--we already have a digital data transmittal system for billing for family practitioners--those things could be achieved, and I hope they will be.
Before I come back to it, I had a couple of questions for clarification for Dr. McCallum. You're saying that in the case of Ontario, you had 20,000 deaths that involved the coroner and that 15,000 of them were seen as natural deaths but involved a coroner. And a number of those were drug related. Some of them, you said, had a death effect and others were involvement. What were the numbers in each of those two categories?