Evidence of meeting #31 for Health in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was federal.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Elisabeth Ballermann  Co-Chair, Canadian Health Professionals Secretariat
Anne Wilkie  Vice-President, Head of Regulatory Affairs, Canadian Health Food Association
Marlene Smadu  President, Canadian Nurses Association
Paulette Tremblay  Chief Executive Officer, National Aboriginal Health Organization
Onalee Randell  Director, Department of Health and Environment, Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami
Antonia Maioni  Director, McGill Institute for the Study of Canada
Michael McBane  National Coordinator, Canadian Health Coalition
Brian Day  President, Canadian Medical Association
William Tholl  Secretary General and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Medical Association

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Good morning. I want to welcome committee members.

I want to especially welcome the witnesses who have taken time to come to the committee today. We're so looking forward to hearing your presentations. We have a full complement of witnesses today, so we're going to have to stick very closely to the timelines.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the motion adopted by the committee on March 13, 2008, and section 25.9 of the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, this is our fourth and final meeting with witnesses on the statutory review of the 10-year plan to strengthen health care.

We are very fortunate to have eight organizations with us today: the Canadian Health Professionals Secretariat; the Canadian Health Food Association; the Canadian Nurses Association; the National Aboriginal Health Organization; the Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami; the McGill Institute for the Study of Canada; the Canadian Health Coalition; and the Canadian Medical Association.

Because we have such a large complement of witnesses, we're going to have a maximum of five minutes for presentations per organization. Following that, we will go into the question period.

We will begin with Ms. Elizabeth Ballermann, co-chair of the Canadian Health Professionals Secretariat.

11:05 a.m.

Elisabeth Ballermann Co-Chair, Canadian Health Professionals Secretariat

Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

It gives me great pleasure to be here on behalf of the Canadian Health Professionals Secretariat, or CHPS, as we call it, which is a national advocacy body that represents 70,000 unionized health professionals who deliver essential diagnostic, clinical rehabilitation, and preventive services. These highly trained professionals include medical laboratory technologists, physiotherapists, social workers, pharmacists, occupational therapists, dietitians, and psychologists, to name just a few of the non-physician and non-nursing health professions, and they work in every facet of health care.

The 10-year plan covers a lot of issues, all important to our members, but I'd like to focus on two main concerns: a failure to develop a strategic plan at the federal level to address the large and growing shortages of health professionals, and the failure to promote and ensure innovative solutions within the public system. I won't spend a lot of time on the latter.

On the shortages, as I said, our members are intimately involved in every step of care, from diagnosis to treatment to recovery, and a shortage of these professionals has serious consequences for timely, high-quality care. Most are aware of the shortage of doctors and nurses, but few know of the major, and in some cases growing, shortages among the many specialized disciplines we represent. Let me be clear. The shortage of these health professionals is not an impending problem; this crisis is here now.

In the interest of time, I'll focus on one specific discipline in our membership: medical laboratory technologists. It is estimated that 80% of diagnostic and treatment decisions are based on lab tests, and demand for many health services, including lab tests, exceeds existing capacity and is growing with the population and the ever-expanding types of testing.

Consider the following facts. The Canadian Society for Medical Laboratory Science estimates there are at least 1,000 vacant positions for laboratory technologists in Canada. At the same time, the CSMLS reports that 50% of the current workforce is eligible to retire by 2015. While there are aggressive recruiting strategies under way in some provinces, there just aren't enough academic seats, and, maybe even more problematic, there's a serious lack of clinical training positions.

There's a further complication. As a result of the major cuts of the 1990s, we're missing an entire generation from the industry, which has serious implications in terms of succession planning.

These are the facts. For some reason, governments have done little of significance to address these areas. It leaves people in some communities without access to critical services, and in some cases it places quality of care in jeopardy.

I strongly emphasize that the problem of shortages is deep and broad, affecting many different disciplines and not just our lab technologists.

There are five top areas where our governments must take action. The areas are:

- cuts by government in the mid-1990s, and I've discussed that already;

- lack of health human resource planning on a national level;

- interprovincial rivalries resulting in competition among provinces and across the world and luring of health professionals from one province to another, which is quite frankly poaching. These shortages require national solutions not isolated provincial initiatives.

- insufficient numbers of academic and clinical training positions in most provinces. Employment practices are contributing to the problem: part-time and casual workplaces and excessive overtime leading to burnout. Constant restructuring and reorganizing leads to instability, uncertainty, and poor morale. New equipment often sits idle because there aren't enough people to run it.

- lack of data, particularly among the varied professions in our membership, which is a major barrier to measuring and forecasting supply, mix, and distribution of professionals.

While the 10-year plan acknowledges the human resource crisis--I mentioned pharmacists and technologists--it did not establish a strategic plan or process to address the causes and remedy the problem. While we fully understand the difficult constitutional jurisdictional issues relating to health care, Canadians want and deserve a system that is second to none. It is imperative that all levels of government work to provide it.

On innovation in the public system, which has been covered a lot and will be covered again, I'm sure we all agree that the current system can't remain on autopilot, immune from change. Our position is that reform can and must be done through innovation within the public system, and unfortunately, the 10-year plan does not express this to our satisfaction.

We believe the federal government must do more to promote and ensure innovation within the public system for three reasons: it is the right thing to do, it's the smart thing to do, and innovation within the public system works.

We have listed a number of examples within our brief--

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Mrs. Ballermann, I'm sorry, I'm going to have to ask you to wrap up quickly because you're past time.

11:05 a.m.

Co-Chair, Canadian Health Professionals Secretariat

Elisabeth Ballermann

Thank you very much.

In conclusion, I'll just restate the two main messages. Canada desperately needs an effective strategic plan at the federal level for a supply of health professionals, and our system requires reform.

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Thank you very much.

We'll now proceed to Ms. Anne Wilkie, vice-president of the Canadian Health Food Association.

11:10 a.m.

Anne Wilkie Vice-President, Head of Regulatory Affairs, Canadian Health Food Association

Good morning. Thank you for the opportunity to comment during the review of the 10-year plan to strengthen health care in Canada.

As mentioned, my name is Anne Wilkie and I'm the vice-president and head of regulatory affairs for the Canadian Health Food Association. The president and CEO, Ms. Penelope Merritt, apologizes for not being here today. The CHFA is hosting forums across the country for its members and the industry as a whole on legislation that was tabled earlier in April, and Ms. Merritt is hosting a session today in Montreal.

The Canadian Health Food Association is Canada's largest national trade association dedicated to the natural health and organic products industry. Our 1,300 members represent the entire supply chain and include growers, manufacturers, retailers, wholesalers, distributors, and importers involved in a variety of industry subsectors, such as vitamin and mineral supplements, herbal products, homeopathics, sports nutrition products, natural and organic foods, fibres, and health and beauty aids.

Our vision is for our industry to be the primary destination for all Canadians seeking optimal health and well-being. It is clearer now than ever before that more and more Canadians are discovering the positive health benefits that are associated with natural health products, and they are choosing these products to maintain and improve their health and well-being and that of their families. In fact, over 75% of Canadians have purchased natural health products. Our natural health products industry is currently valued at over $2.5 billion and it continues to grow.

The 1998 Standing Committee on Health's report, Natural Health Products: A New Vision, laid the groundwork for the creation of unique legislative and regulatory frameworks for natural health products, founded on the acknowledgement that natural health products were neither foods nor drugs.

The CHFA commends the government for their timely implementation of some of the 53 recommendations from the 1998 report. However, there is much more work to be done. In order to ensure that consumers have uninterrupted access to safe, effective, and innovative products at a reasonable cost, it is imperative that the government review the current regulatory environment for natural health products. We believe that for Canadians to continue to enjoy the access and choice of natural health products available today and to enable our industry to grow and to thrive, it is vital that the issues and concerns of the industry be addressed in a timely and appropriate manner that is reflective of the low-risk nature of these products.

Natural products play a key role in achieving optimal health and well-being. For increasing numbers of Canadians, there is a strong desire to have the ability to purchase a wide variety of natural health and organic products and to have the knowledge necessary to use them appropriately. To support Canadians in achieving optimal health and well-being, the federal government must provide a strong framework for Canada in health promotion and disease prevention. Research continues to demonstrate the health benefits associated with the use of natural health and organic products, and a compelling argument exists for the federal government to take a proactive leadership role in providing Canadians with the information they need to make informed choices.

We believe the Minister of Health should become the champion of the cause for wellness and work towards establishing Canada as a global leader in the evolution toward a more holistic and wellness-centred health care paradigm for the benefit of all Canadians.

The Canadian Health Food Association continues to push for a more proactive model of health care based on self-care, health maintenance, and health promotion.

We are therefore recommending to you the following:

- that the federal government become Canada's national leader in promoting a healthy lifestyle, increasing public awareness of the benefits of disease prevention, wellness, and self-care, including information on the benefits of natural and organic products;

- that the federal government encourage research that further defines the benefits of prevention, wellness, and self-care with respect to health optimization and risk reduction;

- that the federal government act as an international ambassador for a wellness centre model of health managment; and, lastly,

- that the federal government promote the benefits of organics as an option for Canadians seeking optimal health and well-being.

The Canadian Health Food Association is poised to work with the government as it strengthens its commitment to health promotion and disease prevention. Canadians expect this from their federal government. Let's be sure this opportunity is not lost. All Canadians will greatly benefit from this wellness approach.

Thank you for your time and attention, and I'd be pleased to answer any questions.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Thank you so much.

We'll now go to Dr. Smadu.

11:15 a.m.

Dr. Marlene Smadu President, Canadian Nurses Association

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I'm Marlene Smadu. I'm the president of the Canadian Nurses Association. We represent over 133,000 registered nurses throughout the country.

Thank you for the opportunity to outline CNA's review of the progress of the 10-year plan to strengthen health care. I will make brief comments, with some recommendations around five of the areas. Further detail is provided in our brief.

First is a national pharmaceutical strategy. As part of the 10-year plan, first ministers agreed to the national pharmaceuticals strategy. In June of 2006, the national pharmaceuticals task force released its progress report to Canadians. CNA is concerned that many of the issues identified as priorities in the NPS are being addressed in isolation and that more focus needs to be put on a comprehensive strategy that addresses the issues, so we recommend sustained effort by the federal, provincial, and territorial governments to develop and implement a national strategy as outlined in the framework for a Canadian pharmaceutical strategy.

Second is health human resources. We would like to commend the government on the development of a framework for pan-Canadian health human resource planning and the consultation that provided for stakeholder input. Unfortunately, progress on this action plan remains slow. We are concerned over the lack of pan-Canadian coordination. No provincial or territorial health system functions in isolation from others. Mobility of health professionals is one example of this issue.

All signs suggest that we are on the brink of a health human resource crisis. A key solution to the nursing crisis lies in more effective use of our existing resources. By including technology, changing work processes, and addressing those issues in the workplace that lead to absenteeism, greater efficiency of the health workforce can be achieved. Several organizations have made significant progress on this, yet there is no formal mechanism to share these learnings across Canada or our organizations. Therefore, CNA recommends that first ministers establish a formal mechanism to promote the sharing and adoption of the innovative yet practical solutions to the health workforce crisis.

Third is primary care reform. The 10-year plan identified the electronic health record as a priority for primary care reform. Despite the numerous documented benefits of an EHR, progress has been slow. CNA recommends that funding for the Canada Health Infoway be increased and accelerated in order to realize the first ministers' vision of the electronic health record.

Fourth is the area of health innovation. The 10-year plan recognized the importance of science, technology, and research to strengthening our health system, as well as our competitiveness and productivity. CNA feels there is significant room for improvement, in terms of investment in information and communications technology. In the area of ICT, health care lags 25 to 30 years behind the banking industry and other industries. To promote the purchase of ICT in the health sector, CNA recommends that governments establish a 100% rebate of the goods and services tax charged to ICT purchases in the health system.

In the area of research, nursing science has been shown to reduce mortality, improve quality, and contain costs, contributing to Canada's economic advantage. Through the $25 million Nursing Research Fund, we have built research capacity and a strong nursing science foundation over the last 10 years, but ongoing research investment is needed. CNA recommends the federal government support a new, 10-year, $79 million federal program submitted by the Canadian Consortium for Nursing Research and Innovation to meet these goals and enhance nursing's contribution to the health and life sciences.

Finally, there is accountability. Though transfers to the provinces increased dramatically as a result of the 10-year plan, they were not necessarily matched with accountability. Health Canada has reporting obligations to Parliament and must monitor and enforce the five criteria and the two conditions of the Canada Health Act. However, Health Canada continues to allow provinces and territories to refuse to provide information on the for-profit delivery of health care in their jurisdictions. CNA recommends that Health Canada make use of its discretionary powers to enforce the principles and conditions of the Canada Health Act with respect to its transfers and report back to Parliament.

In conclusion, while progress has been made on some elements of the 10-year plan, significant challenges and opportunities remain.

Thank you for the opportunity.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Thank you so much for your presentation, Dr. Smadu.

We'll now go to Dr. Tremblay.

11:20 a.m.

Paulette Tremblay Chief Executive Officer, National Aboriginal Health Organization

Good morning, Madam Chair and members of the committee. Thank you for the invitation to participate in this session.

I'm Paulette Tremblay. I'm the chief executive officer of the National Aboriginal Health Organization. NAHO is an aboriginal-designed and -controlled body committed to influencing and advancing the health and well-being of aboriginal peoples by carrying out knowledge-based strategies.

I'd like to start by saying that according to the 2006 census, there are 1.1 million first nations, Inuit, and Métis people in Canada, which accounts for 4% of the Canadian population. It's the fastest-growing segment of the population, at nearly six times faster than the 8% increase for the non-aboriginal population in Canada.

Some 54% of aboriginal people live in urban areas, and 48% of the aboriginal population consists of children and youth aged 24 and under, compared with 31% of the non-aboriginal population. The median age—which is really important, because this is the halfway point—shows 50% of the Inuit population as 22 years old and under, and it is 25 years old for first nations and 30 for Métis, compared with 40 years old for the non-aboriginal population.

I'm stating these stats to show that the greatest need for improved health care services exists for the aboriginal population in Canada.

In 2004, at the first ministers meeting, $100 million was committed over a five-year period towards the aboriginal health human resources initiative. The goals of the initiative were to increase the number of aboriginal people working in health careers, improve the retention of health care workers in aboriginal communities, and adapt current health care educational curricula to improve cultural competence in health care providers.

With respect to access to care and wait times, there's no longitudinal data to show whether overall access to primary care and wait times have improved. There is a trend towards more community-based health programming in first nations and Inuit communities, but these programs represent a different type of service and are not equivalent to primary acute care services.

With respect to more aboriginal health human resources, again at this time we do not have a mechanism to track it. However, what we did was make an internal analysis. The information is sorely lacking at this time with respect to numbers, but we went back to the old data from the 1996 and 2001 censuses to see, if we could begin with a preliminary perspective, a glimpse of what the numbers are for aboriginal peoples involved in health care.

With that analysis, between 1996 and 2001 the count of aboriginal people in health care positions grew by more than 5,000 placements. The largest increase in the number of aboriginal health care providers appears to be among the Métis. In Ontario, the number of on-reserve aboriginal health care providers has increased to 90% from 78%, and the number of aboriginal physicians, dentists, and veterinarians has nearly doubled from 145 to 280. The number of aboriginal optometrists, chiropractors, and other diagnosing professionals increased from 40 to 80. The number of aboriginal pharmacists, dieticians, and nutritionists has tripled from 60 to 200 on reserve and quadrupled from 40 to 160 off reserve. And the number of aboriginal registered nurses in Canada has increased to 915 jobs.

This is a beginning, a preliminary look or glimpse; nonetheless, these figures are an indication that the numbers are increasing. However, we look forward to working with Health Canada and our other partners on our next analysis, which will include the 2006 census data and which will give us more of a trend. But there is an obvious need for more information and more analysis.

Continuing on the subject of aboriginal health human resources, NAHO, with the support of its partners and guidance of the Canadian Institute for Health Information and Dr. Gail Tomblin Murphy, one of the foremost authorities on health human resource planning, has taken the lead on the creation of a minimum data set that will be used to support needs-based health human resource planning for first nations, Inuit, and Métis communities.

Progress on finalizing the minimum data set for the aboriginal health human resources initiative has been slow. There are complexities surrounding the development of indicators and measures that are relevant to first nations, Inuit, and Métis and access to high-quality, comprehensive, and comparable data, and there are issues surrounding privacy rights, both individual and collective. However, regardless of the complexities, all stakeholders have been working diligently to address and overcome the issues, and progress is being made.

Finally, I would like to touch on health administration in aboriginal communities.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

You're over time now, Dr. Tremblay.

There will be time for questions. Thank you so much for that.

We'll now go to Ms. Onalee Randell.

11:25 a.m.

Onalee Randell Director, Department of Health and Environment, Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami

Good morning. My name is Onalee Randell, and I'm the director of the department of health and environment at ITK, Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami. ITK is the national voice that represents the approximately 55,000 Inuit who live in four regions of Canada, in 53 communities.

We often hear about the concerns specific to Inuit, and we are pleased to be able to present on the 10-year plan and our assessment of it.

I want to first talk about areas where we've seen some specific improvements in the last five years. I think the plan has been instrumental in that. One of the areas is the recognition that jurisdictions, including the two territories and two provinces where Inuit reside, as well as the federal government, have committed and recognize the need to work together to address jurisdictional issues.

We need to continue to work together to ensure that Inuit, like all other Canadians, have access to the care they need when they need it. But we also need to make sure that these solutions are made in the north, with community involvement.

Inuit are much less likely to access health care than other Canadians. In 2001, 46% of Inuit children had access to a physician. The Canadian average is 86%. Many of the physician services and medical services are provided by fly-in doctors and fly-in dentists, and the only cases that are seen are emergency cases. If the doctor doesn't happen to be in the community, then individuals are sent out to receive medical care.

The priority area that I want to focus on today is health human resources, because this has been identified as an area where we can make the biggest impact in the shortest time. In developing a relevant health human resource solution for Inuit, we believe that people have to start thinking outside of the health care box and look at the social determinants.

I'm going to spend a few minutes talking about some of the recommendations we would make for an effective health human resource strategy.

First of all, cultural and linguistic competency is a priority area. That means that people providing health care in Inuit regions must be able to provide it in the language of choice, with familiarity of Inuit culture and values. Inuit and western health knowledge and values must be combined. We've seen success in these types of models in communities, such as the Nunavut midwifery programs, which allow Inuit in Nunavut to stay in their home regions to have their babies.

With respect to infrastructure, there's a tremendous gap in infrastructure in Inuit communities. In some cases, the reason that health care providers and professionals cannot be hired is because there are no houses or office space for them to work.

On community health care workers, the paradigm we are recommending in Inuit communities is to focus not only on health care professionals like doctors and nurses and physiotherapists, but on community wellness workers, at a community level, who can be trained in programs based in their communities.

We think there's a need for an urgent review of education systems, beginning with early childhood. The Nunavut Project report, by Thomas Berger, reported that 76% of Nunavut youth drop out of high school and do not graduate. There are limited education opportunities in Inuit communities. One of our priority areas would be to make sure we bring these education opportunities closer to home so that individuals do not have to go thousands of miles away from their home supports.

When we talk about student support and education opportunities, as Paulette was mentioning, the demographics of the Inuit population are significantly different from mainstream Canadians. We've identified that student support, helping students be successful, not only in high school but also in continuing education, is important.

To summarize our recommendations, we believe that in order for any health care reform to be successful, we must ensure that there is community involvement in community health and that the community that uses the health services should be involved in the design, delivery, and maintenance of the system, not simply as the recipient of the end product.

As well, we have to be willing to look at alternative models of health care delivery in developing the solutions. We've spent a significant amount of time researching models in other countries, such as Alaska, that have had great success in addressing remote and rural health care delivery. We need partnerships to be formalized and recognized if we are going to continue to move forward to the benefit of Inuit in Canada.

Thanks for the opportunity to speak to you today.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Thank you.

We now go to Dr. Maioni.

11:30 a.m.

Dr. Antonia Maioni Director, McGill Institute for the Study of Canada

Merci.

I am a visiting scholar at the McGill Institute for Health and Social Policy and a political scientist at McGill University.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for inviting me to speak about health care, which is an important issue for me, since I have focused most of my research on it, as a political scientist, but also because of its important place in Canadian political life and the life of all Canadians.

I would like to focus on three points that I welcome you to explore further during the question period: first of all, my general impression of this 10-year agreement, with respect to the broader public debate on health care reform; then, the positive aspects of this 10-year plan; and, finally, the issues to be resolved.

On September 15, 2004, I was in Ottawa with many of you, attending the First Ministers Conference which, very late in the night, resulted in an agreement setting out the parameters of the 10-year Plan to Strengthen Health Care. What struck me, as both a political scientist and observer at the conference, was the lack of trust, among provincial and territorial representatives, of their federal counterparts—and vice versa—but, at the same time, the realization by First Ministers of the political significance of this issue. In other words, one had the impression that the political leaders had finally understood that, in spite of the constraints and problems associated with this in economic, legal and logistical terms, this was an issue of fundamental relevance to all Canadians.

The reason why the 10-year plan of 2004 is so important is that it came on the heels of a remarkable trend in Canadian attitudes about health care, from exceptionally positive majorities supporting public health insurance and the health care system in the early 1990s to a rising trend of uneasiness and insecurity about the system's sustainability.

Was there a crisis? Well, there had certainly been a squeeze on public finances that had exposed some of the weaker elements of the organization and financing of health care systems. But my colleagues and I, among them Stuart Soroka, who wrote a report on public opinion for the Health Council of Canada, have qualified this crisis as more of a crisis in confidence, one born of a growing disillusionment with political leaders in terms of their capacity and willingness to address the problems that seem to wrack the health care system.

This was something that persisted despite the myriad number of provincial health care reports and even the Commission on the Future of Health Care in Canada's report of 2002. The paradox is that most Canadians are satisfied with the care they receive but are uneasy about the future. They are also concerned about specific issues, namely, emergency room overcrowding, waits to see specialists, and wait lists for specific services.

This brings me to my second point. What has the 10-year plan done to alleviate some of these concerns? The positive aspect is that it was signed, which I guess is proof of some goodwill in some corner of this place we call Ottawa. For observers of health policy, though, the good news is that the 10-year plan was based on strengthening health care through a series of concrete measures that were accompanied by the much-needed security of multi-year funding.

I am not one of those who thinks it's only about the money, but certainly a reinvestment in health on the part of the federal government could be seen as a positive development for provinces trying to put their own financial houses in order.

The measures that were raised in this 10-year plan are not minor affairs. As the other witnesses have said, they spoke to needs as varied as human resources, home care, and public health, as well as the needs of specific populations and the more general commitment to accountability and transparency.

The emphasis on wait times was a clear message to Canadians that their personal concerns were being heard and addressed, and in the years since there has been a noticeable commitment on the part of most provinces to primary health care reform and to better management of wait times in specific areas, which can be seen, at least in part, as facilitated by the commitment of the 10-year plan in this regard.

Thirdly, and to conclude, the plan was also problematical in a number of areas. It is important to recognize that we are talking about areas that are fairly complex and quite difficult to reform and reconcile. However, the First Ministers' Plan had the benefit of at least recognizing that they are all interrelated, when it comes to health care, and that you cannot address one part of the problem without confronting the realities of another. From a political standpoint as well, I believe that recognition of the asymmetry of the arrangements made with Quebec was also appropriate. For the first time in a long time, Quebec was included in the wording of the agreement, rather than in parentheses or in a footnote, as some of my colleagues would say.

However, these same advantages may have undermined the scope and success of the plan. First of all, the political focus on waiting times seemed to strengthen the perception that waiting time is equivalent to access to health care—a perception that continued to be prevalent when the Supreme Court handed down its ruling in the Chaoulli case. And yet, it is clear that waiting times for a particular service are only a symptom of the problem—organizational or financial—and not necessarily the real problem.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Thank you, Dr. Maioni. I'm afraid you're over time. Do you have much left?

11:35 a.m.

Director, McGill Institute for the Study of Canada

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Okay, thank you.

Mr. Michael McBane, welcome. I noticed that you just walked in, and just on time. May we have your presentation, please?

11:35 a.m.

Michael McBane National Coordinator, Canadian Health Coalition

Sure. I apologize for being late.

On behalf of the Canadian Health Coalition, I'd like to thank the committee for the opportunity to appear. I must say, however, that I'm very disappointed in the limited amount of time, and obviously the limited number of Canadians who have the opportunity to appear at this extremely important exercise in accountability.

The Canadian Health Coalition is a public advocacy organization that was formed in 1979 at a conference called SOS Medicare that was attended by Tommy Douglas, Emmett Hall, and Monique Bégin. So all three federal political parties at one time believed in medicare. We have since had a second SOS Medicare conference, in Regina, last May. We had the pleasure of having Monique Bégin back again and a number of other notable Canadians and international experts.

Obviously there's been progress made in health care since the 2004 accord, but we have a long way to go. And we need the federal government back at the table. The federal government has an important and irreplaceable role to play in ensuring comparable access to a continuum of quality, appropriate care for all Canadians.

The first point I want to raise is a question. Why is the accountability gap in health care growing? We have a lot more money on the table--$41 billion plus a 6% escalator--and there's less accountability for the money. That's a huge problem. Medicare belongs to Canadians. Canadians pay for it. Canadians are the shareholders. Federal guardianship is necessary to ensure that public funds are used appropriately.

I should also point out that the Auditor General of Canada, in a number of reports, has said that the Minister of Health is unable to assure Parliament that provinces are in compliance with the Canada Health Act. If you can't ensure compliance, you should not be passing on the money. Parliament should be performing its duty to hold the minister to account so that we know if provinces are in compliance with the Canada Health Act.

The annual report on the Canada Health Act is a disgrace. It's a series of blank pages, and I would urge this committee to exercise its duty to hold the minister to account and to stop keeping Parliament in the dark about where our money is going, particularly with the growth of privatization.

I just want to quote from an access to information document from Health Canada that says that while the CHA issue per se doesn't address private delivery, there are serious implications that affect the health care system, such as charging for insured services and allowing queue-jumping. It also says that the government is free to say that there's no evidence to suggest that private delivery is more cost-effective, of higher quality, or more efficient than public delivery. The silence from the Minister of Health on these questions is deafening. The Deputy Minister of Health understands these questions, but they stop at the minister's desk.

I just want to jump quickly, then, to the other question I ask, which is why the federal government is standing by as medicare is being sabotaged as we speak in the province of Quebec, in the province of British Columbia, and soon in the province of Alberta.

Very briefly, there are two competing and conflicting visions of the future of medicare. According to Roy Romanow, one view, high on rhetoric, low on evidence, and masquerading as something new, is based on the premise that health care is a commodity, that what medicare needs is more market-based solutions. This view is advocated across the country by Claude Castonguay in Quebec, Don Mazankowski in Alberta, Michael Kirby, Preston Manning, and, to my left, Dr. Brian Day. There's a lot of money to be made in breaking medicare, and this is the reason owners of private, for-profit surgical and diagnostic clinics are promoting privatization.

The other vision is rooted in our narrative as a nation. Backed by evidence and ethics, it strongly believes that health care is a public good. It believes that democratically elected governments, upholding the rule of law, not corporate bottom lines, should define common needs, regardless of where you live. You should have access, even if you don't live in Vancouver or Toronto or Montreal.

Weak accountability mechanisms facilitate privatization, and it's no accident that the provinces that are resisting accountability--the Province of Quebec, the Province of Alberta, and the Province of British Columbia--are the provinces leading the way in opening the delivery of insured services to unaccountable commercial interests.

Fourth, why is progress in implementing the 2004 accord being impeded? Canadians need better access to a broad range of services, including pharmacare, home care, and home supports. We need to continue building a quality-based system that takes prevention and appropriateness of treatment seriously.

A reasonable citizen would conclude, after what you were told by the Health Council of Canada a few days back, that Canada's new government is actually impeding progress in implementing the 2004 health accord. Nowhere is this more obvious than in the dismantling of the federal-provincial-territorial working group on accountability. That's more than symbolic.

The other area where it's obvious that the federal government has withdrawn as an active player is in the implementation of the national pharmaceutical strategy. In fact, we're going backwards. The federal government has announced new regulations that will impede access to affordable medicine. That is a violation.

Just to conclude--

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Thank you, Mr. McBane. You're slightly over. Can you conclude very quickly? We have other people who want to speak.

11:45 a.m.

National Coordinator, Canadian Health Coalition

Michael McBane

Sure. I will wrap up with two sentences.

Medicare needs public guardians, not private traders. Canadians expect the federal government to be the guardian of medicare and to enforce the Canada Health Act to ensure national standards. They expect the law to be implemented in all provinces, including Quebec.

Thank you.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Thank you, Mr. McBane.

There will be time for questions, so if someone asks you one, you'll be able to expand on your thoughts.

We'll now go to Dr. Day.

11:45 a.m.

Dr. Brian Day President, Canadian Medical Association

Thank you.

Thank you for having me here today. The CMA appreciates the opportunity to present to the Standing Committee on Health, and I thank you for placing me to the left of Michael McBane.

To quote from the accord in 2004:

First ministers remain committed to achieving results, recognizing that making health care sustainable and able to adapt to the ever-changing needs of Canadians will take time, sustained commitment, and adequate resources.

Based on the last three years, all too few of the accord's commitments have been kept.

Going back 74 years, in 1934, some 12 years before Sir William Beveridge's plan for a national health service in Britain, the Canadian Medical Association produced guidelines for a Canadian national health program funded and administered by the state. The Beveridge NHS plan was a partial template for Canadian medicare.

The NHS has recently undergone renewal and has evolved for the better. Patients have reaped rewards as wait lists have been effectively eliminated in just four years. Universal health care and excellent access can co-exist. We in Canada still cling to a system modelled on the old NHS. Our system needs to be more efficient, effective, and responsible. My presentation will focus on wait times and access, the shortage of doctors, and patient focus, care, and funding.

I'd like to emphasize that progress on wait times has been limited and is not consistent across the country. Provider and capacity shortages continue to be major barriers to access. Medically harmful wait times are not necessary. Wait times lead to human suffering and also carry severe economic costs. Just this year, we released a report showing that the economic cost, in 2007 alone, of patients waiting longer than medically recommended was $14.8 billion. That stunning total was for just four procedures identified as priorities in the 10-year plan. Imagine the cost if all the thousands of procedures were included.

A million Canadians continue to suffer on wait lists because of deficiencies in our system, and this is unacceptable. We need to break the back of wait times for the sake of our patients and for the economic health of Canada. This will require leadership, a revolutionary change in focus, and sustainable investments.

While the first ministers acknowledged the need to increase the supply of health professionals, not enough has been done. Canada is 26,000 doctors short of the average in developed countries and ranks 24th in doctors per population. The poll released by the Canadian Medical Association today found that Canada's doctor shortage ranked second to the economy in importance, and 91% of Canadians say the doctor shortage will influence their vote in an election. Political parties that ignore this issue in the next election could pay a price at the polls. We must increase the numbers, and we must be self-sufficient in the supply of health professionals.

In the 10-year, $40 billion plan to strengthen health care, the needs for improved efficiency, productivity, and performance were not adequately addressed. We must invest in health information technology; we currently spend only one-third of the OECD average in our hospitals. Many countries have systems that provide universal care, have no wait lists, and cost the same or less to run compared to ours.

Wait lists can and must be eliminated. We have to make the system work for patients, not the other way around. We must reposition patients at the centre of our health system and have the funds follow the patient—patient-focused funding.

The system of block funding for our health institutions must be changed. Block funding blocks access. As patients become a value to an institution rather than a cost, productivity and efficiency will improve and wait lists will fall. Canada remains the last country in the developed world to almost exclusively fund hospitals with block funding. In England, patient-focused funding helped eliminate wait lists in less than four years.

Why do we continue to keep patients on wait lists when research shows it's cheaper to eliminate the wait lists? Our system is encompassed in a vicious circle whereby rationing of services leads to limited access, reductions in the workforce, limited investment in technology, long wait lists that negatively impact the economy, resulting in funding pressures that force rationing, so completing the circle. Patient-focused funding can break that circle.

The 2004 first ministers accord was supposed to lead to a fix for a generation. It must not take a generation to fix.

Thank you.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Thank you, Dr. Day.

Just before we go to questions, I want to say that we will be adjourning the witnesses at ten to one, because we do have ten minutes' worth of committee business that we need to do as a committee.

Having said that, we'll go into the seven-minute round at this time, starting with Mr. Temelkovski.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Lui Temelkovski Liberal Oak Ridges—Markham, ON

Thank you very much, Madam Chair, and welcome back.

And thank you to all the witnesses.

Dr. Day, you mentioned that you're glad to be sitting to the left of Mr. McBane, but some of us on this side see you as being a little bit to the right of the Conservatives as well. It's all a matter of perception, I think.

You mentioned, Dr. Day, that there is a shortage of 26,000 doctors at this time, and I'd like to speak in regard to the human resources area of the plan. I'm assuming there are shortages of nurses as well, and radiologists, and so on. Right?

How many doctors do we graduate per year in Canada? Maybe we can get into the nuts and bolts of this.

11:50 a.m.

President, Canadian Medical Association

Dr. Brian Day

There has been some progress with qualifying doctors. We're now up to close to 2,700. But to give you the numbers, in Canada we have seven medical school spots for every 100,000 citizens. Britain, for example, has 13, so we're way, way off from being self-sufficient in the supply of doctors.