I just wanted to correct the record, because the way it has been represented in terms of what happened with the ethics people is incorrect. You need to understand that in terms of external ethics expertise that is brought to CIHR, you have one person who is a member of the governing council, and that is the chair of the standing committee on ethics.
On all of the institutes—there are 13 institutes—you have an ethics designate. What happened is that those 13 designates from the institute advisory boards got together, and they were very concerned about this appointment and said they must go to the standing committee on ethics and say they were very concerned. They did not support this appointment. On the same day, they had a meeting—this is available in the public record. They went to meet with and had a joint meeting with the standing committee on ethics. That group as a whole did not support this appointment and asked their chair to take this to governing council
The additional piece is that the two previous ethics members of governing council do not support this appointment and have stated publicly that, had they been on the governing council, they would not have agreed to that. They would not have signed that letter. The ethics expertise that is coming to CIHR is not supportive of this appointment.