All right.
I don't want to belabour this. I won't beat it over the head, but it still doesn't answer my question. I still think there's political will involved here and at the local levels in deciding whether provinces are going to make a decision to do what they were asked to do and what they were given money to do or to take it and do something else with it.
This could have moved us down the road to looking at savings. I don't know, what was it, $12,000 a year, that was saved per patient with regard to something as small, in terms of a group, as a cohort of people doing dialysis at home? But we're talking about other things, like the management of chronic disease, blood pressure, diabetes, etc. Those all could have realized savings in the system that could have gone to other things within the same system. That was the whole idea of it.
We heard from the reports that came out on the accord that some of this wasn't happening as well as it could. And the sharing of best practices was part of that objective. People were supposed to say, look what I'm doing in Manitoba and here's how it's coming about, and look at how well we're doing—and that still hasn't happened.
I'm not going to beat it about, but my big question is, what sorts of other savings did you note—travel costs being one, etc.—to the system that could come out of using some kind of electronic e-system, in terms of managing chronic disease and managing some—