Evidence of meeting #84 for Health in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was technology.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Ken Milne  Chair, Rural Medicine, Gateway Rural Health Research Institute
Mary Collins  Chair, Chronic Disease Prevention Alliance of Canada
Cameron Norman  Principal, CENSE Research + Design , Adjunct Professor, Dalla Lana School of Public Health, University of Toronto, As an Individual
Feng Chang  Chair, Rural Pharmacy, Gateway Rural Health Research Institute
Dale Friesen  Chief Executive Officer, Beagle Productions

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Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

It's I beat you. Yes.

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Chief Executive Officer, Beagle Productions

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Chair, Chronic Disease Prevention Alliance of Canada

Mary Collins

I want to mention another example that we're aware of. It's been developed with the Concerned Children's Advertisers group and Gogoyou, a game that works with adolescent girls, I think, in a number of aboriginal communities in Ontario. It apparently has been very successful. It's a similar idea where you play the game, and then in order to continue to play it, you have to go out and exercise. Then you're allowed to come back and continue to play it.

Some of these things seem to be helping.

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Chair, Rural Medicine, Gateway Rural Health Research Institute

Dr. Ken Milne

Doctors' egos is another.

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Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

Do you think that's the only reason?

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Chair, Rural Medicine, Gateway Rural Health Research Institute

Dr. Ken Milne

What I mean by doctors' egos is that it's generational. We were raised, trained, and streamlined into being the captain of the team, and then they expected all the captains of the team to be equal team players, and that created a bit of dissonance. That's the ego part: “Wait a minute, I thought I was captain. I thought I was running the place.”

Now as new physicians are coming through, you don't see that attitude. They're very happy to play part of the team.

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Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

I'd like to expand on this. Every time we talk about these comprehensive integrated models of community care, we always talk about health care providers, the nutritionists, pharmacists, physiotherapists, family physicians, nurse practitioners, anybody we can think of. I also think there might be a way—because Mary talked about community—of community players being part of that model. How about the social worker, or the housing advocate, or the school teacher, or the other people who have information, like NGOs, who could be part of that team? They bring a totally different view of how care is given and how care should be given to people.

Do you see that as being part of a good model?

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Chair, Rural Medicine, Gateway Rural Health Research Institute

Dr. Ken Milne

My hospital is part of a community health centre which involves those individuals you mentioned, from community members to social workers, and that's how we do it. We create healthy communities.

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Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

With the patient as the centre.

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Chair, Rural Medicine, Gateway Rural Health Research Institute

Dr. Ken Milne

The patient is always the centre of it, and the most important.

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Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

Thank you.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joy Smith

Thank you very much, Dr. Fry.

There has been excellent dialogue here. We, as a committee, really want to thank you. I listened to Mr. Friesen, Dr. Milne, Dr. Chang, and all the rest of you. It's been a fantastic dialogue today. What we're studying is innovation, and it was extremely innovative. Thank you for being here and thank you for all your insightful comments.

Thank you, committee.

The meeting is adjourned.