Okay.
Mr. Dowie and Ms. Creighton, my colleague, Mr. Webber, has referred to Dr. Gabor Maté. My understanding is that his theory after working in the Downtown Eastside is that 100% of the people he's dealt with in the Downtown Eastside with addictions have underlying trauma. Most trace back to childhood. I'm curious about your sense of that. Is trauma of some type one of the base fundamental proximate causes of later substance use, and if so, how do you deal with that in your population?