Evidence of meeting #131 for Health in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was witnesses.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Abby Hoffman  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy Branch, Department of Health
Valerie Gideon  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, First Nations and Inuit Health Branch, Indigenous Services Canada
Tom Wong  Executive Director and Chief Medical Officer of Public Health, Indigenous Services Canada
Robert-Falcon Ouellette  Winnipeg Centre, Lib.
Bob Benzen  Calgary Heritage, CPC
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Jacques
Marlisa Tiedemann  Committee Researcher

5:25 p.m.

Winnipeg Centre, Lib.

Robert-Falcon Ouellette

Mr. Chair, I will start talking—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

I'm sure you will.

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Winnipeg Centre, Lib.

Robert-Falcon Ouellette

—while everyone works their way back.

We've had some interesting conversations. No one is against the motion. We do want to put forward a really good motion. Hopefully what I am going to....

Mr. Davies, I hope you can hear me as you're moving back.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I can.

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Winnipeg Centre, Lib.

Robert-Falcon Ouellette

I'm going to make what is hopefully a friendly amendment.

To the analysts, I'm not sure what standing order I should use. If we undertake a study, what standing order would that be? It would be pursuant to standing order X that the committee pursue a study, perhaps for another two additional sessions, determined by whomever, inviting a number of witnesses to be determined and submitted by the parties, that looks at evidence with respect to the forced sterilization of women in Canada.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

It's Ms. McLeod's, is it not? Do you care if it's your amendment or his amendment?

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Conservative

Cathy McLeod Conservative Kamloops—Thompson—Cariboo, BC

No, I don't care.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

You don't care? All right, if you'll withdraw your amendment, that will allow his to go ahead.

(Amendment withdrawn)

It sounds like the same thing, is it not?

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Liberal

Lloyd Longfield Liberal Guelph, ON

There is a time frame there that wasn't mentioned before.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Okay, what's the time frame? I didn't hear that.

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Winnipeg Centre, Lib.

Robert-Falcon Ouellette

I was thinking two additional days.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Okay, that is different.

Now we have a motion and we have an amendment.

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

An amendment to my motion.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

It's an amendment to your motion.

I'm going to call a vote on the amendment by Mr. Ouellette to the motion.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Now we go to the motion.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I have one thing to say. Given your comments about how important it was that there be a report and a recommendation, I think you would have to add, as a matter of form, “that a report be issued with recommendations to the House”. You seem to want that. If that's okay, then—

5:25 p.m.

Winnipeg Centre, Lib.

5:25 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

So you're amending my motion to strike out what I am saying, to have a study with a report, two meetings with witnesses to be determined by the parties with a report, with recommendations to be reported to the House. Do I understand that?

You're amending my motion, then?

January 31st, 2019 / 5:25 p.m.

Winnipeg Centre, Lib.

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Liberal

Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC

Perhaps we could have what we have here read back by the analyst.

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

We have to understand that.... Is that our...?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Can somebody read his current motion?

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Liberal

Ron McKinnon Liberal Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam, BC

The clerk, I guess.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Bill Casey

Okay.

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Marlisa Tiedemann Committee Researcher

I can take a crack at it, but we're trying to identify what standing order it was. I think we're waiting on the clerk for that, but it would be to the effect, pursuant to Standing Order X, that the House of Commons Standing Committee on Health pursue a study with another two additional meetings with witnesses to be determined by the parties, and that a report be issued with recommendations to the House.

5:25 p.m.

Winnipeg Centre, Lib.

Robert-Falcon Ouellette

On the forced sterilizations....