All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you both for coming. I practised medicine for almost 20 years in emergency departments, so much of what you say is resonating quite loudly with me. In the emergency department, we see holes in the system from just about every angle coming into our department, and one of them is our palliative care system, or more often, the lack thereof. People come into the emergency department and what they obviously need, from the state of their illness, is palliative care.
One our of frustrations is that very often when the specialist, very often an oncologist, has said there's nothing more that can be done, the patient is put back into the hands of the primary care provider. Primary care providers don't always understand what's involved and how to access that system. You may have alluded to this, but should a national education program of all health care providers be provided, particularly addressing when to bring this subject up?