Okay.
Then $10.1 billion would be by insurance companies.
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Liberal
Liberal
Chief Executive Officer, 3Sixty Public Affairs
That's right.
Liberal
President and Principal Consultant, PDCI Market Access
That would be the non-insured health benefits plan, Department of National Defence, Veterans Affairs, Correctional Services, Immigration and Refugees and Citizenship Canada—
President and Principal Consultant, PDCI Market Access
—and RCMP. NIHB, the non-insured health benefits plan, is a huge one.
Liberal
Chief Executive Officer, 3Sixty Public Affairs
That's right. That would actually capture deductibles that people have to pay before their insurance kicks in.
Liberal
Darshan Singh Kang Liberal Calgary Skyview, AB
So that's not only people who pay from their own pocket, who don't have the coverage.
Chief Executive Officer, 3Sixty Public Affairs
That's right. That accounts for 20%—
Liberal
President and Principal Consultant, PDCI Market Access
The other pocket includes deductibles and copays.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bill Casey
I want to thank all of you for helping us with this, because it is complicated. I was looking at this chart. I used to be in the car business. We had a factory, and then there was me, the dealer, and then there was the customer. We had three boxes. You've got nine boxes to deal with on your page and it's hard to know why or how they all fit together, but you're helping us.
Chief Executive Officer, 3Sixty Public Affairs
That's as simple as I can make it, I'm sorry to say. It is complicated.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bill Casey
It is complicated, but you're helping us and we appreciate it very much.
Thanks very much for your contribution.
The meeting is adjourned.