Evidence of meeting #19 for Health in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was vaccines.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Caroline Quach-Thanh  Chair and Professor, Université de Montréal, National Advisory Committee on Immunization
Cindy Evans  Acting Vice-President, Emergency Management, Public Health Agency of Canada
Guillaume Poliquin  Acting Scientific Director General, National Microbiology Laboratory, Public Health Agency of Canada
Roman Szumski  Senior Vice-President, COVID-19 Vaccine and Therapeutics Acquisitions, Public Health Agency of Canada
Bersabel Ephrem  Director General, Centre for Communicable Disease and Infection Control, Public Health Agency of Canada
Kimberly Elmslie  Senior Vice-President, Immunization Program, Public Health Agency of Canada
Stephen Bent  Director General, Centre for Immunization and Respiratory Infectious Diseases, Public Health Agency of Canada

2:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

I call this meeting to order.

Welcome, everyone, to meeting number 19 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Health.

The committee is meeting today to study the emergency situation facing Canadians in light of the second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic.

I would like to welcome the witnesses.

From the national advisory committee on immunization, we have Dr. Caroline Quach-Thanh, chair and professor, Université de Montréal.

From the Public Health Agency of Canada, we have Stephen Bent, director general; Kimberly Elmslie, senior vice-president; Bersabel Ephrem, director general, Centre for Communicable Disease and Infection Control; Cindy Evans, vice-president, emergency management; Dr. Guillaume Poliquin, acting scientific director general; and Dr. Roman Szumski, senior vice-president, COVID-19 vaccine and therapeutics acquisitions.

I would just summarize that the above witnesses are asked to present on the following: (a) current outbreaks, occurrences and modelling for COVID-19 variant spread in Canada as it relates to projected vaccination rollout timelines; (b) capacity to surveil the emergency prevalence and spread of variants; (c) current federal government assumptions regarding vaccine effectiveness on variants in the context of the federal government's vaccine portfolio and (d) Canada's procurement of variant-related booster shots.

According to the motion that requested this panel, I will ask Dr. Quach-Thanh to speak for up to seven minutes followed by the Public Health Agency of Canada for up to 15 minutes.

Dr. Quach-Thanh, please go ahead for seven minutes.

2:50 p.m.

Dr. Caroline Quach-Thanh Chair and Professor, Université de Montréal, National Advisory Committee on Immunization

Thank you very much.

I would like to begin by thanking the Chair and the members of the Standing Committee on Health for inviting me to testify.

I am a pediatrician, a microbiologist-infectiologist and a clinical researcher at CHU Sainte-Justine, as well as a full professor in the Department of Microbiology, Infectiology and Immunology at the Université de Montréal. I have clinical and research expertise in infection control from hospital to community, which also includes vaccination. I hold a Tier 1 Canada Research Chair in infection prevention and control: hospital to community. However, I am testifying today as Chair of the National Advisory Committee on Immunization, or NACI, so I will limit myself to that committee's mandate.

The National Advisory Committee on Immunization, or NACI, is an external advisory committee to the Public Health Agency of Canada and has existed since l964.

The NACI work and committee attendance for the 15 voting members and the chair is done on a voluntary basis and carefully reviewed for any conflicts of interest.

NACI makes recommendations to the Public Health Agency of Canada on issues relating to immunization for the vast majority on vaccines that have been authorized by Health Canada. In only one instance was NACI asked to make recommendations on a not yet authorized vaccine to support emergency preparedness, the Ebola vaccine.

NACI bases its recommendations on various elements, including the burden of illness; vaccine characteristics such as safety, immunogenicity and efficacy; ethics; equity; feasibility and acceptability as well as economics.

To ensure that NACI has the proper expertise, it expanded its voting membership in recent years to include a social scientist, two health economists and an epidemiologist and consults regularly with the Public Health ethics consultative group.

NACI uses a systematic approach to review the medical literature and vaccine science, which may take longer to perform compared to a narrative review, but ensures reproducibility and quality so that provinces and territories are confident about the knowledge synthesis product they can then use for their local recommendations.

Given the growing need for recommendations with respect to vaccination against COVID-19, the NACI has increased the frequency of its meetings, sometimes to one per week. The secretariat supporting the NACI within the Public Health Agency has worked diligently to provide the NACI with the information it needed to make decisions, including scientific literature reviews, ethical analyses and management option tables. This has allowed for a variety of approaches based on provincial values and epidemiology.

Since the beginning of the pandemic, the NACI has issued a number of statements: a statement on research priorities to guide manufacturers' phase III randomized trials, so as to answer key questions that will enable the NACI to make recommendations on the use of vaccines for various populations, including vulnerable individuals; four recommendations on priority groups for vaccination in various circumstances; and two recommendations on the use of vaccines for COVID-19, including one for each of the vaccines approved by Health Canada.

Given the questions on variants asked by HESA and in keeping with the NACI mandate, I cannot comment on the vaccine rollout. However, NACI has variants of concern, VOCs, on its radar, having added many research questions over time in our recommendations on the use of COVID-19 vaccines; the latest version remains to be published. These research questions feed both the Canadian Immunization Research Network's work plan and the newly formed vaccine surveillance reference group, safety and effectiveness working groups, to identify knowledge gaps and leverage existing cohorts or surveillance infrastructure to answer these questions.

The following questions relate to VOCs: What is the role of humoral versus cellular immunity in preventing immune escape of viral variants? How will viral variants impact the efficacy, effectiveness, immunogenicity and safety of a vaccine with respect to death, severe illness, symptomatic disease, asymptomatic disease, infectivity and transmission? What is the effect of using booster vaccines containing heterologous antigens and what is the optimal timing for booster vaccination?

At this point, NACI has requested presentations of vaccine effectiveness data from the U.K. where the B.1.1.7 variant is the most predominant SARS-CoV-2, in a country where both AstraZeneca and Pfizer-BioNTech are used with an extended interval of 12 weeks. Data were presented to NACI confidentially on February 8, 2021, after four weeks of follow-up of individuals vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine. Public Health England will be presenting an update on their results again next week at the regular NACI meeting.

Based on data from the literature, NACI considers that the available mRNA vaccines remain effective against the VOC that emerged in the U.K. Studies show that following one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech, participants' sera exhibited a broad range of neutralizing titres against the wild-type virus that were only modestly reduced against the B.1.1.7 variant.

The introduction of the E484K mutation in a B.1.1.7 background led to a more substantial loss of neutralizing activity. Neutralizing antibodies were lower in those 80 years and over in a separate study. However, antibody response, as key as it may be, is not the only type of immunity that is of importance: cellular immunity also plays an important role in protecting the individual.

As there are no known correlates of protection, and as we are likely going to see the emergence of other new variants over time, it is paramount that Canada and the world invest in surveillance and tracking of variants, identifying those of concern; analyze new variants' sensitivity to neutralization by vaccine recipients' sera; study vaccine protection of animals against challenge with new strains, and sequence viruses causing breakthrough infections in vaccinees. This will allow for real-time vaccine effectiveness surveillance alongside VOC's identification and surveillance.

The spread of the VOC that emerged in South Africa, the B.1.351, may be more detrimental. Data from recent randomized clinical trials where VOCs were circulating showed that although these vaccines, the vector-based and Novavax, remained efficacious against the B.1.1.7 variant, they had decreased efficacy against the South African variant.

The phase 3 studies that were conducted for the mRNA vaccines were done at a time when VOCs were not yet prevalent. However, we are aware that some of the leading vaccine manufacturers are already working on new versions of their COVID-19 vaccines adjusted to target B.1.351 or other variants. NACI is monitoring the data and will issue a statement if a booster or a new dose is needed, including consideration of any new vaccine candidates that are authorized by Health Canada.

NACI is also monitoring the use of heterologous vaccine schedules. Preliminary results from an animal study showed that a combination of mRNA and AstraZeneca elicited a stronger cell-mediated immunity. The U.K. started a study whereby AstraZeneca and Pfizer will be administered as a mixed schedule. Recruitment started at the beginning of February, and NACI will be monitoring the results from this study.

For over 50 years, NACI has been providing evidence-informed, expert advice to the Government of Canada on vaccines. Viral variants or different strains of diseases are not a new phenomenon, and we have a long history of adapting vaccine programs to the changing evidence in areas such as influenza, where new vaccines are needed every year, or pneumococcal disease, where different strains have waxed and waned requiring dynamic vaccine technologies and program redesign over the years. NACI is poised to adjust this new vaccine program, if needed, as the evidence evolves.

I thank you for your attention and will be happy to answer questions as they relate to NACI's mandate.

3 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Thank you, doctor.

We'll go now to the Public Health Agency of Canada for 15 minutes, please.

3 p.m.

Cindy Evans Acting Vice-President, Emergency Management, Public Health Agency of Canada

Mr. Chair and honourable members, thank you for this opportunity to speak to you about COVID-19 variants and the actions the Public Health Agency of Canada is taking to protect Canadians during this pandemic.

I would like to start with a bit of background information on variants. All viruses mutate over time. It's only natural that the virus that causes COVID-19 will also mutate. By mutate, I mean change the genetic material in the virus. While all viruses mutate, not all mutations are of concern. A variant of concern is a mutation that has the potential to have an impact on the characteristics of the virus. A variant is of concern when it affects the disease spread, the severity of the disease, the vaccines and treatments or the tests used to detect the virus.

We are working with international partners, including the World Health Organization, to build our knowledge base and better understand the COVID-19 variants and their potential impacts. In recent months, several COVID-19 variants of concern have emerged internationally. As of yesterday, we are aware of three variants of concern in Canada: those first identified in the United Kingdom, South Africa and Brazil.

The situation with variants of concern in Canada continues to evolve rapidly. As of February 16, across provinces, a total of 637 cases associated with variants of concern have been reported publicly. To date, there have not been any variants of concern identified in any of the territories.

The majority of the cases in the provinces have been of the B.1.1.7 variant first identified in the United Kingdom. The majority of cases related to this variant are linked to travel. However, there is evidence of community spread as there have been cases without any direct or indirect link to international travel or to travellers.

Five provinces—British Columbia, Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, and Nova Scotia—have confirmed the B.1.351 variant first identified in South Africa. So far, the P.1 variant first identified in Brazil has been confirmed only in Ontario.

Between mid-January and mid-February 2021, there have been 21 outbreaks of COVID-19 in Canada associated with a variant of concern. These have occurred in a variety of settings, including long-term care facilities, workplaces, health care settings, child care centres, schools, residential apartments and social gatherings.

Ontario has reported the majority of these outbreaks, with a total of 13. Quebec has reported four; Alberta, two; and, Manitoba and Newfoundland and Labrador, one each. The variants of concern continue to spread in Canada, and it's likely they will become more widespread over time.

We are continuing to track emerging variants both in Canada and internationally. As our understanding of these variants increases, we will update our guidance on case and contact management and community-based measures. Evidence from other countries shows that COVID-19 activity can be brought under control even when variants of concern are widespread.

Strict public health measures, along with strong border controls and strict adherence to personal protective practices, can slow the spread and impact of variants of concern. Slowing the spread will buy us the time we need to get Canadians vaccinated.

Vaccine manufacturers are investigating the impacts of the known variants of concern on their vaccines. There are reports that certain types of vaccines may be less effective against the variants of concern first identified in South Africa and in Brazil. However, given the limited data on the new variants of concern, more research is needed to confirm these early findings.

As new variants are identified, it's more important than ever that we continue to follow recommended public health measures.

Since the beginning of the pandemic, public education and communications have played a critical role in the Government of Canada’s response to COVID-19. We work closely with the provinces and territories, public health partners, multicultural and indigenous organizations and other stakeholders to make sure that information is accessible to all Canadians and that up-to-date information and public health guidance are available through a wide variety of channels.

I would now like to turn to my colleague Dr. Guillaume Poliquin. He will talk to you about sequencing, surveillance and vaccines.

3:05 p.m.

Dr. Guillaume Poliquin Acting Scientific Director General, National Microbiology Laboratory, Public Health Agency of Canada

Thank you.

As my colleague mentioned, I will be talking to you about sequencing, surveillance and vaccines.

Canada has a federal, provincial and territorial approach to surveillance. This involves front-line healthcare settings and laboratories across the country. Our approach has effectively equipped us to detect respiratory diseases, including COVID-19.

We have worked with the provinces and territories and other stakeholders to accelerate diagnostic testing capacity in order to detect cases of COVID-19 and its variants more quickly.

The National Microbiology Laboratory monitors Canadian cases of COVID-19 with the provinces and territories through ongoing analysis of genomic databases in Canada.

Since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic in Canada, the Public Health Agency of Canada, Health Canada and the Canadian Institutes of Health Research have been working with Genome Canada, and provincial and territorial partners, on sequencing.

Sequencing is used to determine the RNA of the virus in order to help identify different variants. This data is an essential tool to track how the virus is both changing and spreading. This method can help us quickly detect potentially emerging variants of concern.

In April 2020, the Government of Canada committed $40 million to support the creation of the Canadian COVID-19 Genomics Network, or CanCOGeN. This investment will enable sequencing efforts across the country that will help us understand the genetic variations of the virus as it evolves.

These early investments have helped put Canada in a leadership position so that we can rapidly detect and respond to the variants of concern that have emerged and are spreading around the world. The National Microbiology Laboratory and the Canadian COVID-19 Genomics Network have worked with federal, provincial and academic scientists, epidemiologists and infectious diseases clinicians to establish priorities for sequencing.

These activities target the identification of existing variants of concern through the regular sampling of positive cases. These include, but are not limited to, suspected cases of reinfection and vaccine failure. Sequencing is also targeting high-risk scenarios that may signal the presence of potential new variants of concern. Canada sequences more than 5% of the positive caseload in the country, a rate on par with most top surveillance programs in other countries. Our objectives are to increase our sequencing to 10% and to decrease turnaround times.

The National Microbiology Laboratory is working with provincial partners to ramp up screening positive cases of known variants of concern. Screening capacity is increasing in many provinces.

At the same time, the Public Health Agency of Canada is tracking daily counts of variants of concern across Canada. It has also worked with provincial and territorial partners to reach agreements to track cases that have been identified as variants of concern. This agreement includes sharing epidemiological information so that we can do a comparative analysis of concern cases versus cases where the variants are not of concern. This analysis will allow us to detect characteristics that might enhance our understanding of how public health measures need to be adapted to a variant of concern.

To further support our efforts, the government is investing $53 million in an integrated Variants of Concern Strategy. The investment will increase our capacity to find and track variants of concern in Canada. It will also help to rapidly scale up surveillance, sequencing and research efforts to inform the public health response.

This national strategy brings together public health and genomic sequencing, along with epidemiology, immunology, virology and mathematical modelling. Through this partnership, we are leveraging existing expertise and laboratories to drive public health investigations and take public health action rapidly.

To implement the strategy, the Public Health Agency of Canada's National Microbiology Laboratory is providing $20 million. CanCOGeN is providing $8 million to increase genomic sequencing and real-time data-sharing capacity. The Canada Institutes of Health Research are providing up to $25 million to scale up Canadian research to increase our understanding of emerging variants. This will help provide decision-makers with rapid guidance for drug therapy, vaccine effectiveness and other public health strategies.

The Public Health Agency of Canada is responsible for supporting and acting on the recommendations of the COVID-19 Vaccine Task Force. Based on the expert recommendations of the task force, clinical information, and authorizations by Health Canada, the Agency has worked with Public Services and Procurement Canada and other federal departments to develop an evidence-informed vaccination strategy. This strategy focuses on securing a diverse portfolio of leading COVID-19 vaccine candidates.

The portfolio of candidates serves to provide every person in Canada with access to safe and effective vaccines as soon as they are available.

Canada was an early investor in COVID-19 vaccine technology, and has advance purchase agreements with seven leading vaccine manufacturers. To date, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have been authorized by Health Canada. Three others, AstraZeneca, Janssen and Novavax, have submissions with Health Canada for regulatory authorization. Others are progressing well through clinical trials. Canada's approach to its vaccine strategy was designed to take into account the uncertainties and many risks inherent in global vaccine supply chains. It also considered the evolving nature of the virus and its impacts on vaccines.

The current global emergence of variants of concern has reinforced the value of having a diversified portfolio of vaccines. Canada is monitoring evidence of the impact that variants of concern have on the effectiveness of the vaccines in our portfolio.

The Public Health Agency of Canada strongly supports evidence-based decision-making and continues to work closely with its partners to monitor the evidence on all fronts. And we continue to adjust our efforts when necessary.

The agency is working with the provinces and territories, international partners, the scientific community and health systems to collect evidence on the variants. This will help us determine how they are impacting on Canada's immunization efforts, as well as those of other countries.

At the same time, the agency is working with its federal partners to engage vaccine developers on on how their vaccines will protect against variants, including the potential need for booster doses.

In our current portfolio, we have secured enough vaccines for everyone in Canada to have access to an authorized vaccine by September. We are confident in our vaccine portfolio but we recognize that it is not static. As we learn more, we will adjust the strategy to ensure that it continues to be effective.

We are actively exploring all options that can help us strengthen our vaccine portfolio and support our immediate and longer-term needs. This includes making sure that all Canadians have access to boosters, if they are required.

To say this last year has been a difficult one is an understatement. But we have come a long way. We have seen the positive effect of the public health measures we have been practicing. They are effective and they help to prevent the spread of COVID-19, including its variants of concern.

Now is not the time to give up. We've come too far for that. Until we are all vaccinated, it is more important than ever that we maintain the practices that have brought us this far.

Thank you for your attention.

3:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Before we keep going, I wish to emphasize that everyone has the right to participate fully in these proceedings in the official language of his or her choice. If at any time there is any interruption or problem with the translation services, I urge affected members to advise the chair or the clerk without delay. We will do our best to correct the situation.

Also, I wish to remind all members that they should mute their microphones when they're not speaking. My personal apologies to the translator, I seem to be the worst offender here, so I shall try to do better.

With that, we will start our rounds of questioning. If we play our cards right, I expect we can do probably three rounds of questions.

I also would like to note that it is my understanding, Dr. Quach-Thanh, that you have to leave at four o'clock Eastern. Is that correct?

3:15 p.m.

Chair and Professor, Université de Montréal, National Advisory Committee on Immunization

Dr. Caroline Quach-Thanh

That is correct. I have another meeting for my group. I'm sorry.

3:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Thank you.

That being the case, I would recommend to the members that for any questions they might have for Dr. Quach-Than they make sure they're done in the first couple of rounds.

That said, we will start with the Conservatives.

Go ahead, Ms. Rempel-Garner. You have six minutes.

3:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you, Chair.

Mr. Szumski, I'm concerned about our ability to get booster doses of vaccines that are targeted towards the variants. Do the contracts that we've currently signed with vaccine manufacturers, specifically Pfizer and Moderna, include booster doses, or do we have to negotiate separate contracts for those?

3:15 p.m.

Dr. Roman Szumski Senior Vice-President, COVID-19 Vaccine and Therapeutics Acquisitions, Public Health Agency of Canada

Mr. Chair, the current contracts that are in place do not reference the need for boosters. Those would be new conversations that we would enter into with the suppliers.

3:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Have you started to enter into negotiations with suppliers or with any supplier for booster doses?

3:15 p.m.

Senior Vice-President, COVID-19 Vaccine and Therapeutics Acquisitions, Public Health Agency of Canada

Dr. Roman Szumski

We are engaged directly with the suppliers and keeping current with their tracking of vaccine performance and plans for boosters or updates to their vaccines. They currently do not have boosters that are available for distribution. It's going to be a while yet before that's in play, but the discussions with them are on a rolling basis.

3:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Does the vaccine acquisition branch have any concern about any of the contracts that have currently been signed with regard to efficacy against the U.K. or South African variants?

3:15 p.m.

Senior Vice-President, COVID-19 Vaccine and Therapeutics Acquisitions, Public Health Agency of Canada

Dr. Roman Szumski

Mr. Chair, the vaccines we have, the two that are authorized, are the Moderna and the Pfizer, which have very strong efficacy against the Wuhan strain, the original strain. If they have an alteration in their efficacy as a result of variants and they lose some of their efficacy by 10% or 20%, or even a bit more, they still will be very useful tools and vaccines that you would want to deploy widely in your population.

3:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Is there a threshold of efficacy that you would no longer employ an original vaccine against?

3:15 p.m.

Senior Vice-President, COVID-19 Vaccine and Therapeutics Acquisitions, Public Health Agency of Canada

Dr. Roman Szumski

Mr. Chair, I would have to refer to experts to understand what that threshold is, and that would be a question of deployment. If the vaccines reach a state where the experts are advising that they shouldn't be deployed, then clearly they will follow that. The people who make the decisions to deploy the vaccine will make those alterations.

3:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you.

Ms. Ephrem, today your department announced new pandemic projections. The modelling shows that while the original COVID-19 epidemic is slowing, the trajectory changes considerably when new variants are factored in. In the modelling that was released today, the forward-looking projections, how many vaccinated persons did that assume?

February 19th, 2021 / 3:20 p.m.

Bersabel Ephrem Director General, Centre for Communicable Disease and Infection Control, Public Health Agency of Canada

I would suggest that this question be answered by Ms. Elmslie, who will be better positioned to answer.

3:20 p.m.

Kimberly Elmslie Senior Vice-President, Immunization Program, Public Health Agency of Canada

We'll have to get back to you with the exact numbers on that. I don't have them in my notes at this point in time, but it's easy for us to bring that back to you very quickly.

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Do you think it's problematic that these numbers were released to the Canadian public without the ability to answer that question?

3:20 p.m.

Senior Vice-President, Immunization Program, Public Health Agency of Canada

Kimberly Elmslie

I just don't have it in front of me at this moment in time. I'm not sure if Dr. Poliquin—

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Can you please table that with the committee this week?

3:20 p.m.

Senior Vice-President, Immunization Program, Public Health Agency of Canada

Kimberly Elmslie

Yes, definitely.

3:20 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you.

Can you also tell us how the amount of deployment of rapid testing affected your modelling?

3:20 p.m.

Senior Vice-President, Immunization Program, Public Health Agency of Canada

Kimberly Elmslie

I will refer that to Dr. Poliquin on the testing question, please.