Evidence of meeting #36 for Health in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was federal.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Christyne Tremblay  Deputy Clerk, Privy Council Office
Rob Stewart  Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Asher Shalmon  Director of the International Relations Division, Ministry of Health of Israel
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Jean-François Pagé
Bruce Macgregor  Chief Administrative Officer, Regional Municipality of York
Thao Pham  Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet, Operations, Privy Council Office
Jodie van Dieen  Counsel to the Clerk of the Privy Council and Assistant Deputy Minister, Privy Council Office Legal Services Sector, Privy Council Office
Martin Pavelka  Epidemiologist, Ministry of Health of the Slovak Republic
Isaac Bogoch  Physician and Scientist, Toronto General Hospital and University of Toronto, As an Individual
Vladimír Lengvarský  Minister of Health of the Slovak Republic
Peter Hotez  Professor and Dean, National School of Tropical Medicine, Baylor College of Medicine, As an Individual

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I would argue that they belong to the people of Canada.

You have not, then, sent the contracts to the law clerk.

11:30 a.m.

Deputy Clerk, Privy Council Office

Christyne Tremblay

We are working with the pharmaceutical companies to ensure that the appropriate documents are sent to the clerk.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you.

The next question is, did the PCO provide direction or approval to any department or minister that ATIP operations should be shut down during the pandemic?

11:30 a.m.

Deputy Clerk, Privy Council Office

Christyne Tremblay

Every ATIP office in the government is open.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

At the start of the pandemic, did the PCO provide direction or approval to any department or minister that ATIP operations should be shut down?

11:30 a.m.

Deputy Clerk, Privy Council Office

Christyne Tremblay

I will repeat my answer. Every ATIP office is operational.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you.

Will a national proof of vaccination system be available to Canadians within the next four months?

11:30 a.m.

Deputy Clerk, Privy Council Office

Christyne Tremblay

If I may, I will ask my colleague Thao Pham to answer that question since she runs the operations of the Cabinet Committee on the Federal Response to the Coronavirus Disease, COVID-19.

11:30 a.m.

Thao Pham Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet, Operations, Privy Council Office

Good morning, Mr. Chair and MPs. I'm really pleased to be here. Thank you so much for the invitation.

Maybe I'll try to respond to Ms.—

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I don't have time. We only have a few minutes.

Will a proof of vaccination system be available to Canadians within the next four months?

11:30 a.m.

Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet, Operations, Privy Council Office

Thao Pham

As you know, the federal government is working very closely with provinces and territories in terms of rolling out the vaccination. Of course, the provinces and territories are the key interlocutor and are responsible for rolling out the vaccination, and therefore we will continue to work very closely with them.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I asked about a national proof of vaccination program. Are any plans for a national proof of vaccination system under way?

11:30 a.m.

Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet, Operations, Privy Council Office

Thao Pham

We are working closely with all of the provinces and territories because, as you know, each province will have the specific systems, but—

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Is it fair to say no, that there won't be a national system for proof of vaccination, then?

11:30 a.m.

Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet, Operations, Privy Council Office

Thao Pham

Provinces and territories as you know are rolling out the vaccination program right now, and we are continuing to work with them.

11:30 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

There are no plans right now, then, for a national proof of vaccination program. It will be up to the provinces.

11:30 a.m.

Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet, Operations, Privy Council Office

Thao Pham

We are working with the provinces and territories. As you know, the federal government has responsibility for international travel, so a number of departments are also looking at international standards with the WHO.

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Will there, then, be a national system that is managed by the federal government?

11:35 a.m.

Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet, Operations, Privy Council Office

Thao Pham

Maybe, Mr. Chair, if I may I'll just finish my answer here. The federal government has responsibility for international borders, so we are working with international partners such as the ICAO and WHO to look at those international standards. Of course, we are also continuing to work with the provinces and territories in terms of—

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you for the non-answer.

Mr. Stewart, was any advice given to the federal government that quarantine enforcement mechanisms should be fully set up at our borders and airports prior to directing a million Canadians to come home at the start of the pandemic?

11:35 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

If I understand your question well, you're asking whether or not we were enforcing the borders as we are today—

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

No, I was asking whether or not you gave advice to the government to set up quarantine and enforcement mechanisms at the border prior to directing a million Canadians to come home at the start of the pandemic.

11:35 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

The advice to the government was provided by the Public Health Agency of Canada, to be clear.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Are you aware whether the Public Health Agency of Canada directed the government to set up quarantine enforcement prior to directing Canadians to come home at the start of the pandemic?

11:35 a.m.

Deputy Minister, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

Rob Stewart

To be clear, as things unfolded over the course of January and February of last year, we were working to bring Canadians home before we declared a pandemic and before quarantine measures were imposed.