Evidence of meeting #38 for Health in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was doses.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

John Ossowski  President, Canada Border Services Agency
Stephen Lucas  Deputy Minister, Department of Health
Theresa Tam  Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada
Iain Stewart  President, Public Health Agency of Canada
Bill Matthews  Deputy Minister, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Matthew Tunis  Executive Secretary, National Advisory Committee on Immunization
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Jean-François Pagé
Denis Vinette  Vice-President, Travellers Branch, Canada Border Services Agency

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

I understand that people don't like it when I am direct, but this is my time, and these are questions Canadians need answered. I won't be talked over or told what I can and can't do, so I will direct my time accordingly.

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

We are expected to give due courtesy to the witnesses.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

No. Being polite, in your opinion, is a tool of the patriarchy, and I will continue.

Thank you.

Dr. Stewart....

12:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

It is a prerogative of the chair to allocate time.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Mr. Stewart....

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

I normally delegate that to the members, but I would like to give the witness a chance to respond, please.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Then I will ask my question again.

Mr. Stewart, do you believe that, per the OIC—the government's direction—travelling across the border with a doctor's note to get a vaccine is medically necessary?

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President, Public Health Agency of Canada

Iain Stewart

Mr. Chair and honourable member, the U.S. government has indicated that it doesn't view that as a reason to enter the United States.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I asked what our government was doing. What do you—

12:15 p.m.

President, Public Health Agency of Canada

Iain Stewart

I will continue to answer your question, ma'am.

From our perspective, it entails risk. Somebody has to go across the border. They pose a potential risk for exposure in that country and then coming back, so it would be normal that they would do all of the testing and quarantine related to entering the United States.

12:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you.

To either Dr. Stewart or Dr. Lucas, on what date will fully vaccinated travellers be exempt from quarantine upon entering Canada?

12:20 p.m.

President, Public Health Agency of Canada

Iain Stewart

If I may, Mr. Chair and honourable member, that's a question that, in fact, Dr. Tam, would probably be more appropriate to speak to.

12:20 p.m.

Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

Dr. Theresa Tam

There are both a public health set of considerations and operational....

One is that we want to see that Canada's epidemic is under control and that our population has had the chance to get fully vaccinated as well.

On the path—

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

On that point, Dr. Tam, earlier in your testimony, you noted the fact that there weren't enough Canadians fully vaccinated, and that this was part of the reason we weren't looking at allowing fully vaccinated travellers to be exempt from a quarantine hotel.

Do you have a date or a benchmark by which that might be lifted?

12:20 p.m.

Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

Dr. Theresa Tam

We have to look at the data as we go, but I think that we are on track to have two doses provided to Canadians by the fall.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

So that's when fully vaccinated travellers would be exempt from quarantining. It's the fall.

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Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada

Dr. Theresa Tam

There may be other provisions to change what we would do with vaccinated travellers en route to—

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

When would those be? When would that be happening?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Thank you, Ms. Rempel Garner.

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NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Mr. Chair, I have a point of order, if I may. I didn't want to interrupt my honourable colleague in her questioning, but I was advised about five minutes ago that this entire meeting has not been online up until, I think, maybe a minute or two ago. Is that the case? Journalists have not been able to follow this right up until about a minute ago.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

I'm not aware of that.

Mr. Clerk.

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The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Jean-François Pagé

Let me check with the technical people.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

I'm advised that it's working now, but it hasn't been. Journalists have been contacting our media people and saying that the proceedings have not been online right up until a minute or two ago.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon

Thank you for bringing that to our attention.

I'll ask the clerk, once he finds out about what's going on there.

I do understand it's going now.

Ms. Rempel Garner, I think you have.... Well, your time is officially up, but let's give you another 30 seconds, if you wish to finish up.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you.

The fall is when fully vaccinated travellers would not have to go through a quarantine hotel to enter Canada, Dr. Tam.