Thank you, all.
Evidence of meeting #46 for Health in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was documents.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Evidence of meeting #46 for Health in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was documents.
A recording is available from Parliament.
12:45 p.m.
Conservative
12:45 p.m.
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
How the chair is ruling.... Mr. Davies only spoke because of the chair...? Please, give me a break. These insults need to stop.
12:45 p.m.
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
The members didn't want to deal with long-term care and now they want to create something that doesn't exist—
12:45 p.m.
Conservative
12:45 p.m.
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
It's absolutely ridiculous. I'm embarrassed for you.
12:45 p.m.
Liberal
12:45 p.m.
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
I just challenged your ruling that this is not debate so that we can proceed with getting the witnesses.
12:45 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
I didn't rule that it's not debate. I said that, in point of fairness, because I gave Mr. Davies ample opportunity to make his points—and I know that he's very passionate about those points—it seemed appropriate to let Ms. O'Connell match them.
I haven't made a ruling to be overruled.
However, I would respond to Mr. Davies' point. He said that I took it upon myself to schedule this meeting somewhat in defiance of the committee's decision. I should point out that the chair is obligated to call a meeting within five days, with two days' notice. It's not a matter of taking anything upon myself. It's a matter I'm obligated to act on with Standing Order 106(4).
This being the only time slot that we know about, I had no real choice but to schedule it for this time. I'm quite happy to check into the schedule and see what we can arrange for subsequent meetings. I would note that the resources of the House are extraordinarily tight right now, so I couldn't count on having another slot for this meeting for the 106(4).
That's why I had to do this now.
12:50 p.m.
NDP
Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC
Mr. Chair, with respect, when would we have the meeting that was supposed to happen today then? Where was your concern about that?
12:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
My obligation as chair is to fulfill the 106(4). Certainly I shall do my best to try to find another slot for that meeting.
12:50 p.m.
NDP
Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC
Mr. Chair, it's also to implement the will of the committee as expressed in the previous motion.
12:50 p.m.
NDP
Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC
You made the choice to bump the previously scheduled meeting for the 106(4) meeting. That was your choice.
12:50 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Ron McKinnon
It's not a choice. It's an obligation. The Standing Order 106(4) meeting takes precedence.
Be that as it may, this is what happened.
12:50 p.m.
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
It's me again. I'm sorry. I just wanted to get your attention.
12:50 p.m.
Liberal
Jennifer O'Connell Liberal Pickering—Uxbridge, ON
I just wanted, on the record, all the times that some Liberal members brought forward the suggestion to study long-term care. In particular, the last time was May 28. There would have been six meetings left. We could have easily done these four meetings—
12:50 p.m.
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
On a point of order, Chair, this is not a point of order. This is debate and the law clerk is waiting.
