Evidence of meeting #139 for Health in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was nicotine.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sean Casey
We do not. The motion is not in order.
We'll go back to you, Mr. Naqvi. You have the floor.
Liberal
Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON
Okay, Chair, thank you.
I will put forward a motion that, upon the tabling of supplementary estimates (B) for the fiscal year 2024-25, the committee invite the Minister of Health and the Minister of Mental Health and Addictions—
Conservative
Liberal
Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON
—to testify on the supplementary estimates (B) at the first meeting—
Conservative
Liberal
Conservative
Laila Goodridge Conservative Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
You can't do indirectly what you can't do directly, and you cannot put forward a motion that is on the same subject as a motion that has previously been adjourned; therefore, this is out of order.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sean Casey
Thank you very much, Mrs. Goodridge. If you could let Mr. Naqvi complete his thought, I expect that you might get a ruling that is almost the same as what you just said.
Go ahead, Mr. Naqvi.
Liberal
Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON
Chair, this is a very important motion that I think is appropriate to be debated. I think that, once we have an appropriate debate on this motion, there may be opportunities to amend this motion from other members that I am open to hearing, but I think it's absolutely necessary, given the kind of antics that we are seeing in the chamber at the House of Commons by the Conservatives, where they have basically—
Conservative
Conservative
Laila Goodridge Conservative Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
This member, the member for Ottawa Centre, is a lawyer and was the justice minister in Ontario. He should therefore understand parliamentary process and procedure. What he is trying to do is against the orders of the House, as I have pointed out, and he is trying to do indirectly what he cannot do directly. I believe that this is absolutely shameful. He is trying to do this for political gain, and this cannot go forward.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sean Casey
Mr. Naqvi, the motion that you propose to present, is it the exact same motion that was presented earlier in the meeting, or is it a different motion?
Conservative
Laila Goodridge Conservative Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB
He wasn't putting forward a different motion. That's part of the problem, Mr. Chair. This is part of the challenge.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sean Casey
Mrs. Goodridge, please. Mr. Naqvi has the floor. I have asked him a question.
Now, if you propose to introduce a different motion, you haven't given notice, so a new motion would be out of order. The same motion would be out of order. A motion to resume debate would be out of order.
Liberal
Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON
That's why, Chair, I was asking for this motion to be debated, so that we can make any appropriate amendments, as is the usual course in this committee at all times.
Of course, the Conservatives do not want to talk about this motion. They love to filibuster at all times, as we see them filibustering at the House at this moment. They do not want to hear from the minister about the supplementary estimates.
Conservative
Conservative
Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC
Mr. Chair, I'm going to ask that you rule our colleague out of order.
Conservative
Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC
I agree that you have, but he's clearly not listening. I think his mic should be shut off.
I move to adjourn the meeting.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sean Casey
You can't move a motion on a point of order.
Mr. Naqvi, it's back to you.
Liberal
Yasir Naqvi Liberal Ottawa Centre, ON
Chair, as I understand it, one can move a motion on the same subject. That is what I'm attempting to do, while continuously being obstructed by the Conservative members. They are quite comfortable to filibuster this committee and other committees at all times, as they are doing in the House of Commons at the moment.