Evidence of meeting #93 for Health in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was actions.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jennifer Saxe  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health
Marie-Hélène Lévesque  Director General, Law Enforcement Policy Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Samuel Weiss  Scientific Director, Institute of Neurosciences, Mental Health and Addiction, Canadian Institutes of Health Research
Shannon Hurley  Associate Director General, Centre for Mental Health and Wellbeing, Public Health Agency of Canada
Jennifer Novak  Director General, Mental Wellness, First Nations and Inuit Health Branch, Department of Indigenous Services
Andrew Hayes  Deputy Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General
Andrea Andrachuk  Director General, Department of Public Works and Government Services
Joëlle Paquette  Director General, Procurement Support Services Sector, Department of Public Works and Government Services

1:30 p.m.

Director General, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Andrea Andrachuk

I understand that the reasons communicated by the World Health Organization related to the ownership of Medicago and not to the vaccine itself.

Again, our purpose for the advance purchase agreement was to procure vaccines. The purpose was not for donation. The purpose—

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Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Okay.

So it had nothing to do with the effectiveness of the vaccine and everything to do with the shareholder.

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Director General, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Andrea Andrachuk

Yes, exactly.

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Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Thank you.

Was the vaccine properly evaluated, or did they simply look at the list of company shareholders?

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Director General, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Andrea Andrachuk

I don't have that information.

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Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

If Canada had contravened this WHO verdict, what would the consequences have been?

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Director General, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Andrea Andrachuk

In February 2022, Health Canada approved the use of the vaccine in Canada. We therefore didn't need WHO approval.

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Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

But was the vaccine distributed?

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Director General, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Andrea Andrachuk

We never received the doses from Medicago because the contract was terminated.

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Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

If the contract had not been terminated, Canada would have been able to distribute the doses, but not internationally.

Have I got that right?

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Director General, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Andrea Andrachuk

Yes, that's right.

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Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Aramis Biotechnologies recently purchased Medicago's headquarters.

By purchasing the headquarters and the attached greenhouse units, has Aramis Biotechnologies automatically acquired Medicago's intellectual property?

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Director General, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Andrea Andrachuk

I don't have that information.

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Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Thank you.

You said that seven advance purchase agreements had been signed for the vaccines. We know that the one with Medicago didn't work, but what about the remaining six?

Were vaccines received under each of the other six agreements?

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Director General, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Andrea Andrachuk

One more contract was cancelled, but the other five delivered.

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Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Which of the other contracts was cancelled?

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Director General, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Andrea Andrachuk

It was the contract with Sanofi.

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Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

How much did that cost us?

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Director General, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Andrea Andrachuk

I don't have that information either.

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Bloc

Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Okay.

Could you send that information to the committee, please?

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Director General, Department of Public Works and Government Services

Andrea Andrachuk

Yes, I will.

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Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Thank you very much.

Mr. Hayes, you spoke about 169 million doses. Do the 169 million doses ordered include those borrowed under the international COVAX mechanism?

1:30 p.m.

Deputy Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General

Andrew Hayes

Yes, that figure includes all doses made available to Canada.

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Julie Vignola Bloc Beauport—Limoilou, QC

All right.

Did we reimburse, if I can use that term, COVAX? Did Canada return the doses it had in hand under the COVAX mechanism?

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Deputy Auditor General, Office of the Auditor General

Andrew Hayes

I don't know. That's perhaps a question for the department.