Health Committee on Dec. 9th, 2025

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

It's over half the time.

[Kendal Weber]

We know that fentanyl is one of the most harmful substances on the street. It's illicit fentanyl.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

It is.

[Kendal Weber]

That is correct. Providing those harm reduction tools is fundamental.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

Are you aware that many drugs are smoked with foil, including heroin, fentanyl, crack cocaine, crystal meth and some crushed pills, yes or no?

[Kendal Weber]

Yes. I do imagine they are used....

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

Has Health Canada funding been used to buy foil kits for drug use, yes or no?

[Kendal Weber]

In the listing I have seen, I do not recall foil. We do provide money for harm reduction tools, so I do suspect some have purchased foil. I don't have that in front of me, but I could go back to the written question we provided where we listed the harm reduction tools that organizations did use spending for—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

During my recent visit in Kelowna, I saw a vending machine on a public sidewalk that dispensed drug supplies such as crack pipes and foil. No ID for screening was required. It was quite remarkable. I could just walk up and hit a number, just like a regular vending machine.

Is Health Canada aware that these vending machines are operating in Canada, yes or no?

[Kendal Weber]

Those machines are providing clean—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

Are you aware?

[Kendal Weber]

—harm reduction tools.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

Is Health Canada aware that these are operating—

[Sonia Sidhu, Liberal, Brampton South, ON]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Chair, when you are sitting as a chair, you have to be very—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

What's your point?

[Sonia Sidhu, Liberal, Brampton South, ON]

My point is that when you're sitting as a chair, anybody—

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

What is your point?

[Sonia Sidhu, Liberal, Brampton South, ON]

The point is that you have to be neutral.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

Thank you. Duly noted. It's my time.

[Sonia Sidhu, Liberal, Brampton South, ON]

Thank you. Please be respectful.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

Ms. Weber.

[Kendal Weber]

I don't recall from the listing we provided in the written response that we funded vending machines, but I do know that community organizations are supplying through vending machines to enable access at all hours so there's the reduction of the transmission of infectious disease or harm.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

Ms. Weber, do you honestly think Canadian taxpayers want their money to be used for crack pipes, meth pipes and fentanyl pipes?

[Kendal Weber]

The funding is for harm reduction in response to this toxic drug crisis we are facing.

[The Vice-Chair, Conservative, Dan Mazier]

Do you think taxpayers would be pretty happy about that?