Evidence of meeting #20 for Health in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was seconds.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Marjorie Michel  Minister of Health
Curtis-Micallef  Deputy Minister, Department of Health
Hamzawi  President, Public Health Agency of Canada
Voisin  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Health Policy Branch, Department of Health
Weber  Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health
Crowcroft  Acting Chief Public Health Officer, Public Health Agency of Canada
Hébert  President, Canadian Institutes for Health Research
Barton  Director General, Centre for Biosecurity, Regional Operations and Emergency Management Branch, Public Health Agency of Canada
Higgs  Acting Assistant Deputy Minister and Chief Financial Officer, Department of Health
Aung-Thin  Assistant Deputy Minister, Health Products and Food Branch, Department of Health

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Is there an age requirement for that?

4:35 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health

Kendal Weber

Health Canada does not set an age limit. Some of the sites may have policies and procedures—

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Yes, but they are not federal regulations. There are no—

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health

Kendal Weber

Health Canada provides the exemption to be allowed to have possession of the product in the site—

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

There is no—

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health

Kendal Weber

—but we do not determine an age.

The Chair Liberal Hedy Fry

Mr. Mazier, would you let the witness answer? It's not reasonable to ask your question and not let the person finish their sentence. It quite rude, actually.

Ms. Weber, finish your sentence, please.

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health

Kendal Weber

Health Canada does not have an age limit in legislation.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Thank you.

If a 16-year-old enters the federally approved drug consumption site, is there any requirement from Health Canada that prohibits that minor from injecting fentanyl at that site, yes or no?

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health

Kendal Weber

If there's an individual who's seeking help from a supervised consumption site, there are health practitioners and individuals at the site who will support them and help prevent an overdose.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

If a 16-year-old or a 17-year-old comes in, there are no requirements around age. Is that correct?

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health

Kendal Weber

When an individual—

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

I'm asking about federal requirements.

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health

Kendal Weber

—in need goes to a supervised consumption site to prevent an overdose, they are not asked their age.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Can minors consume hard drugs in a federally approved consumption site?

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health

Kendal Weber

If there is an individual going to seek help....

A supervised consumption site also provides wraparound services. It can be an entranceway into treatment, recovery and housing for that individual, regardless of their age.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

What happens if someone shows up at a supervised site without ID? Are they allowed to come into the site?

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health

Kendal Weber

If someone comes to the site looking for help and a place to be supported when they're using a substance, there is no requirement for ID.

If there is a policy or procedure at an individual site, I would not be aware of it. There is nothing set in federal legislation.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

We just heard that the minister is approving sites beside day cares and schools. They're within steps of these sites. Someone can walk out of a school, below age—there is obviously no age restriction—and go in and say, “I need to have a fix here.” They're going to be in and supervised.

Are there no federal regulations on that?

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health

Kendal Weber

Organizations determine the locations of supervised consumption sites. Then they send in an exemption request.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

What about the federal government...on age?

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health

Kendal Weber

They come to the federal government to seek an exemption from the act. That act allows an individual to be in the site and supervised while using a substance to prevent an overdose.

Thousands of overdoses have been prevented. Lives are saved at supervised consumption sites in Canada.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

Ms. Weber, Health Canada gave the Parkdale Queen West Community Health Centre over $1 million, through the substance use and addictions program, to fund its services. The centre's own website lists “Harm Reductions kits” for “Booty bumping” as one of its funded services.

What does Health Canada understand “booty bumping” to involve?

4:40 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Controlled Substances and Cannabis Branch, Department of Health

Kendal Weber

Health Canada funds harm reduction, treatment and prevention under the substance use and addictions program. There are different eligible expenses under the contribution agreements.

We fund some sites, but that is not their entire source of funding. Some—

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

I was asking in particular, Ms. Weber, about “booty bumping”.