Evidence of meeting #34 for Health in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was study.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Steele  Chair, Best Medicines Coalition
Parmar  Vice President, Government Relations and Regulatory Affairs, Canadian Health Food Association
Lévesque  General Manager, Groupement provincial de l'industrie du médicament
Farrah  Committee Researcher

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

I never said I wanted to adjourn. I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. I never said I wanted to adjourn.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Okay. Next time, I will not take that for granted.

Conservative members did come to me to adjourn this meeting. If you're going to play games with me, I'm not going to accept it.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

I'm sorry—

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

The meeting is suspended.

[The meeting was suspended at 5:37 p.m., Tuesday, June 9]

[The meeting resumed at 4:28 p.m., Thursday, June 11]

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Welcome. We are now resuming meeting number 34 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Health.

Today's meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, pursuant to the Standing Orders. I would like to remind participants of the following points: Please wait until I recognize you by name before speaking. For those participating by video conference, click on the microphone icon to activate your mic and please mute yourself when you are not speaking.

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Before we begin, I will say that over the past several weeks, the committee has been unable to move forward because of the ongoing discussions in the committee. As a result, we have not been able to begin a study on the rise of HIV infections, an important public health issue.

As chair, I have been fair and impartial. I have consistently recognized members who wish to speak and have ensured that all parties have had every opportunity to make their views known. The fact that the overwhelming majority of the interventions during this period have come from the Conservative members speaks for itself.

As we had six suspensions at our last meeting, I had the implied consent from the majority of members and majority of parties to adjourn the meeting, but two Conservative members ultimately wanted another suspension.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

I have a point of order. Should we not be dealing with 106(4)?

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

I will be. I'm coming to that. Just wait.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

I have a point of order.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

There's a question of privilege as well.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Yes. I'm coming to that, if you can hold on. Let me read this first. Then I'm coming to it, if you can give me time and be patient. That's why I'm reading fast, so—

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

I didn't know where you were going.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

I also want to address comments—

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Excuse me, Chair, I need you to repeat what you just said. Did you say that there was unanimous consent and—

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

No, no, never. Okay. I will read that.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

—from a couple of—

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

If Mr. Mazier hadn't intervened, you would have heard.

As there were six suspensions on the same subject matter, the matter we are studying, I had the implied consent from the majority of members and majority of parties to adjourn the meeting—

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

That's what I wanted to—

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Why are you interrupting?

An hon. member

That's not true, Chair.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Listen to me first. Let me speak and then you can take your turn, okay...?

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Okay, but I hope you're not speaking for me.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

I'm not speaking for you.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Okay.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

That's what I'm saying. If you can listen to the full thing that I want to say, then you will realize....

This is where the problem is; it's when you start intervening when I haven't read everything that the problem comes.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Will I get to speak after you finish?