Evidence of meeting #34 for Health in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was study.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Steele  Chair, Best Medicines Coalition
Parmar  Vice President, Government Relations and Regulatory Affairs, Canadian Health Food Association
Lévesque  General Manager, Groupement provincial de l'industrie du médicament
Farrah  Committee Researcher

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

On a question of privilege, shutting off a mic from an MP—

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Mr. Battiste, I see you have a point of order.

Jaime Battiste Liberal Cape Breton—Canso—Antigonish, NS

Yes, I have a point of order. It's on repetition, because this has been ruled on before. It seems like the—

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

No, it's completely different.

Jaime Battiste Liberal Cape Breton—Canso—Antigonish, NS

—Liberal Party, the government, is trying to put put together a study that's of real importance to indigenous people all across Canada, and especially in Manitoba, after their premier has said there's a crisis.

We're trying to get to that study and that crisis, and a number of times now, the Conservatives have put their hands up. You've ruled twice now on this, and the repetition—

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

On a point of order—

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

There's already a point of order on this.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

—I'm explaining the repetition here, because we've seen—

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Mr. Battiste has the floor.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

On his reference to our blocking this motion, we are not.

Jaime Battiste Liberal Cape Breton—Canso—Antigonish, NS

It's absolutely disgusting—

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Listen to me. Just a minute—

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

We are not blocking this. You had a chance to fix this motion, and you didn't.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Mr. Battiste, you have the floor. Please go ahead.

Jaime Battiste Liberal Cape Breton—Canso—Antigonish, NS

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

It's really important that we get to this study. It's really important to first nations communities. It's really important to Manitoba.

Now, I'm here as a guest, but I'm seeing something here that is a really important matter to be studied. Twice now, the chair has ruled that the interruptions coming from the Conservatives on things that are not related to this study so they can get to their study are taking us away from getting to a very important point, and I want it to be on camera. I want the indigenous people across Canada and all people in Manitoba to see and hear what's going on right now with this important issue that needs to be addressed and needs to be spoken to and voted on. I want them to know that the Conservatives won't allow it to happen.

I would think that they should—

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

On a point of order—

Jaime Battiste Liberal Cape Breton—Canso—Antigonish, NS

—really look within themselves and really understand what they're doing to first nations people and what they're—

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

On a point of order, I made it very—

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Dan Mazier Conservative Riding Mountain, MB

—this is slanderous.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Listen to me. I'm the chair. I will dictate. I have made my call. Listen to me now.

Members, I have the floor. Let me talk first. Then you can raise a point of order if you need to, but I have to acknowledge the next member on the list when I stop speaking.

I have ruled that this amendment is out of order. The floor is with Mr. Bailey.

Mr. Bailey, go ahead, please.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Burton Bailey Conservative Red Deer, AB

Thank you, Chair.

Thank you, Dr. Eyolfson, for this important study.

I really agree with you. I spent over a decade in Winnipeg, not only involved in hospital, but running the funeral home, and one of the things that I would like you to consider in your study is that we look also at provinces other than Manitoba, and that we look at syphilis.

Syphilis has become just as major as HIV in Alberta. I'm wondering if you would possibly consider expanding your study to take in syphilis as well as HIV, because it is in the same community that we're discussing that these outbreaks are occurring, and it has become very problematic in Alberta. If you'd like me to move a motion for that, I certainly would.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

Mr. Eyolfson, do you agree to the friendly amendment?

Doug Eyolfson Liberal Winnipeg West, MB

That would actually be acceptable, yes. I would accept that as a friendly amendment.

The Chair Liberal Sukh Dhaliwal

With that, are you done, Mr. Bailey?

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Burton Bailey Conservative Red Deer, AB

Yes, thank you.