Very briefly, I think this has to be refined, and I think maybe we could use a guideline. There is a municipal bylaw here in the city of Ottawa with regard to cars idling. I forget if it's five minutes or ten minutes or whatever, but that would reach the point Mr. Hill was making.
Second, on the question of providing a waiting area for the ministers' drivers, I remind everybody that all these ministers have offices on the Hill. These drivers are employees of the ministers, so they can go and sit in their minister's offices and twiddle their thumbs if they have no other use. But space is so rare on the Hill, let them use their bosses' offices.