I just want to go back to something Mr. Siegel said, because I think it's very important. It's the fact that, despite some people's interpretation and assumption that this may bring the barriers down for women, indeed it is largely gender neutral.
I know that the Equal Voice witnesses have talked about doing good research, and in the Prime Minister's task force for women entrepreneurs, which was about five years ago now, we did extensive research. What we found was that banking and financial institutions treated men and women equally badly if they had no credit rating and they had not amassed assets. Women generally are disproportionately represented in that area.
So I still do hold one of the concerns that there may be unintended consequences to women that, despite the fact that this largely is gender neutral, will actually negatively or could prospectively negatively impact women.
It seems to me that one of the areas one can't cover off quite as neatly with Mr. Hébert-Daly's comment about the ceilings being low enough is really that of leadership. It seems to me that the whole issue of leadership is another category that's different from whether or not we run as candidates, notwithstanding the incumbency factor and other things that have been said. That does seem to me to be impacted, again, disproportionately, in a way that I don't think the act covers off to my satisfaction.