Let me just clarify. I always like to discuss that.
I did mention at the beginning of our witness time that we would go till 12:15, simply out of courtesy for the witnesses, so that they had their exact hour. I did get some permission from the committee to do that.
Those options are on the table. I do have a couple of hands up here. I suspect they're on points of order, so let's hear them out first, and then we'll see what the committee wants to do.
Monsieur Guimond is next , and then Mr. Lukiwski.