I appreciate Monsieur Godin's concerns here. I actually think Mr. Lukiwski's response is a good one. It's very difficult when there is background noise and interruptions of the sort we have just heard.
I just wanted to make a point here, and I do want to make a distinction that giving multiple examples by way of proving a point is different from saying the same thing over and over again in constant repetition. And all members should be fine with that.