Again, Mr. Chair, I reiterate what are the facts and what is the truth: at no time did I approve the grant. As I indicated, I rejected the proposal from Kairos. I made the decision. It was my decision. Once I made that decision, I then talked to my chief of staff. At no time did I or anyone at CIDA approve the grant. CIDA made a recommendation to the minister. I made the decision to reject the proposal. At no time was there an approval of that proposal.
On March 18th, 2011. See this statement in context.