Evidence of meeting #51 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was decision.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Ned Franks  Professor Emeritus, Department of Political Studies, Queen's University, As an Individual
Margaret Biggs  President, Canadian International Development Agency
Mary Corkery  Executive Director, Canadian Ecumenical Justice Initiatives (KAIROS)
Rob Walsh  Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel, House of Commons
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Michelle Tittley

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bev Oda Conservative Durham, ON

If you will allow me to actually--

10:50 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

That was the answer to the question I had.

My next question is this. Where was the minister when the document was signed?

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bev Oda Conservative Durham, ON

I was in transit. I was travelling, actually, back to my riding on that particular day. I was in my car, driving, when I had the telephone conversation. However, Mr. Chair, if you will allow--

10:50 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Did the minister direct Stephanie Machel--

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bev Oda Conservative Durham, ON

Mr. Chair--

10:50 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

I got the answer to my question. Now I'm asking another specific question.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bev Oda Conservative Durham, ON

Mr. Chair, I would like to answer a question of Mr. McKay's that has not been answered yet, if I could.

March 18th, 2011 / 10:50 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Mr. McKay is not even here.

Listen, I want to know--

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An hon. member

He's right there.

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An hon. member

Mr. McKay's over here.

10:50 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

I want to know if it was the minister who ordered Stephanie Machel--

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Excuse me--

10:50 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

--to sign that document, to change the document.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Excuse me, I have a point of order. I'll go to it, and then I will have another little discussion.

Go ahead.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON

I have the distinct impression that the question required more than the amount of information given before Mr. Martin interrupted. But we can't determine that unless she can finish her answers. So unless Mr. Martin wants to be sworn in as a witness, I think he should just let the people answer the questions.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Thank you, Mr. Reid.

10:50 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

[Inaudible--Editor]...my questions as meaningless.

My next question--

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

I've stopped the clock, but let me please finish this, all right?

Thank you.

That was not a point of order. Mr. Martin, please try not to interrupt. The interpreters have a very rough time if you're speaking over top of other people, and the chair has a very rough time if you're speaking over top of him.

In my standard practice, and it will be the practice of this committee again today, the length of the question is about the length of the answer. We try to go that route. I understand that you're trying to ask some quick questions, and I'll try to hold the minister to quick answers, and we'll do our best with that. Let's not talk over top of each other.

10:50 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

I would appreciate very much if we could keep the answers roughly the length of the question.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

That's what I'll try to do, Mr. Martin.

10:50 a.m.

NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

My next question--

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Well, we still--

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NDP

Pat Martin NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

--to the minister, through you, Mr. Chairman, is whether it was her who specifically told Stephanie Machel, from her phone in the car, to insert the word “not”.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

Go ahead, Minister.

10:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bev Oda Conservative Durham, ON

Mr. Chair, through you, if I could answer an unanswered question that was posed to me--