Thank you.
Again, I'm not trying to say that he was the witness who came to speak specifically on the Oda thing, but he referenced the Oda case in his testimony. I think it's very relevant, whether or not he was a witness in favour, if anyone speaks who was a witness, because we're talking about points of privilege on potential contempt motions. I think it's very relevant that a former clerk of the Privy Council, who referenced the Oda case, gave his opinion. And it supports what Mr. Reid was suggesting, which was that in his opinion that document shouldn't have been released to begin with.
I can live without having a direct reference to his testimony, because opposition members might argue that you shouldn't include it because he wasn't a witness called in the Oda case. That's fine. The point Mr. Reid made, however, is very important. That is, because Minister Oda did not think that document would be made public--and Mr. Cappe verified that in his opinion it shouldn't have been, and that if he had been the Clerk of the Privy Council at the time, it wouldn't have been--then she had no expectation that the document was going to be made public. If in her estimation the document would never have been made public, how in the world could she be considered in contempt for trying to mislead anyone, because no one would have known about it to begin with?
That, I think, is an extremely relevant point, and that isn't referenced here. I would suggest that if you're actually trying to be fair about this whole issue--and the question is whether she was deliberately trying to mislead--then how can you not put that in?