Procedure and House Affairs Committee on Feb. 28th, 2013

[Johanne Boisvert, Assistant Director, Analysis, Elections Canada]

The dark lines are the commission's proposal and what you see in colours are what's proposed this morning.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

This is by the members.

[Johanne Boisvert]

Yes.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

So the existing over here is brown. The dark lines are what the commission is proposing, and the colour differences are what the members at the table are proposing.

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

Chair, if I could just add, we started this on a point of order. I hate the idea of taking this out of Mr. Atamanenko's time.

[Scott Reid, Conservative, Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON]

I concur. I will not--

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

Okay.

[Scott Reid, Conservative, Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON]

--take it out of Mr. Atamanenko's five minutes.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

Kind and cuddly guy....

[Scott Reid, Conservative, Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON]

But I'm glad you said that because I'm still confused. I get what's on the right now. On the left we've been told there are three things there, but I see two things. I see a boundary that looks like the exact riding that is....

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

Let me try. The brown is the current riding.

[Scott Reid, Conservative, Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON]

The dark brown line is the current riding.

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

You see that there's blue, brown, green, and purple. We're talking about the brown one, that's the riding as it exists. Those dark black lines.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

Am I right? Is the brown shading what the riding currently is?

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

Yes.

[Scott Reid, Conservative, Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON]

No, it's not.

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

Yes, it is.

[Scott Reid, Conservative, Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON]

I don't think so.

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

Yes, because that's what's on the right—

[Scott Reid, Conservative, Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON]

Okay.

All right, the point was not that Penticton is being taken out, because I see Penticton is still there. That was what you just said a second ago.

[Nathan Cullen, NDP, Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC]

You'd be looking at Princeton.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

Elections Canada, do you want to throw something in here?

[Johanne Boisvert]

I think what makes it confusing is that in the suggestions it's to go back to the current. You have to look at the border. The dark lines, that's the commission's proposal.

[Scott Reid, Conservative, Lanark—Frontenac—Lennox and Addington, ON]

Okay.

Essentially, it boils down to an argument for a return to the status quo. Now I understand.

Thank you.

[The Chair, Conservative, Joe Preston]

Okay.

Mr. Atamanenko, please, go ahead.