In fact, even before 1933, up to 1933, there was an urban-rural mix. It's just the nature of Saskatchewan. In 1965 they set it out more predominantly, and it's been the case every year thereafter.
With four urban-rural ridings in Regina, let's say, with the provincial quotient at 73,813, multiply that by four and you get 295,000. If you did nothing, just at the provincial quotient, Regina could grow to a population of 295,000 before you would have an urban-only riding, if you went with history.
Right now Regina has a population of 193,000. If you did the 15%, which could go up or down, and I suggest that in this case in Saskatchewan it would be an appropriate thing to do, Regina would have to grow to 369,000 people before you'd need a change. Now, that's not the fact.... The population numbers don't justify a fundamental shift, because if you kept the four urban-rural mixes in Regina, you could go for quite a number of years.
To say that Regina and Saskatoon are growing.... In fact, we have cities in Souris—Moose Mountain, in my riding, that are growing at the rate of 9% and 11% or so more than Regina or Saskatoon, because of the oil and gas industry and because of the explosion of the economy in Saskatchewan. Actually, the southeast in the last five years has surpassed the percentage growth in Regina and Saskatoon. I would dare say that in the next five years the population will increase similarly by 5,000 people.
So what are these commissioners doing by saying that the time has come in Saskatchewan to make a fundamental change? The time has not come in Saskatchewan to make a fundamental change. It may, but Regina and Saskatoon would have to grow a significant degree before we'd have to say we need urban-only ridings. You could always split it once again. They're small cities; they're not large cities.