I understand, Mr. Chair, but my point is this. When a colleague comes and he has agreement with his neighbouring colleague about the changes, we likely don't need to have 30 minutes to argue about that. But when two colleagues come and clearly....
We knew in advance that they had radically different views, but similarly, they were very positive and very willing to find a solution, so it would have been good to have 45 minutes with them and 15 minutes with Mr. Van Loan.