What a concept, that an arm's-length group, there solely to run elections, would lead the discussion for changes to Canada's election laws. It's a pretty novel idea. What a great democracy New Zealand is. Boy, New Zealand has good democracy.
At any rate, their electoral commission undertook the first stage of the public consultation. They had stages of consultations, I say to my colleagues on the committee, not just one stage; they had stages of consultations. The commission received more than 4,600 submissions. They held public hearings in Auckland, Christchurch, Hamilton—you've got to love that one—and Wellington to hear from those people who wanted to present their submissions in person. That's four different places, and....
What's the population of New Zealand?