Good. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
As you mentioned earlier, that's one way I can assure no one will misuse all the time there.
Anyway, I do thank both of you for being here or virtually being here.
I noted that you both sort of centred your opening remarks on one particular aspect of the bill that you had concerns about.
I've also done a lot of thinking, and certainly research, into that particular item, as many members of this committee have. What I've found is that, with the 39 pieces of ID that are available to people to come to the polls, it's quite an extensive list. I've heard a number of different examples given of hypothetical voters who may not have the necessary identification, or not be able to obtain it. I have yet to see an example that I don't feel there is a solution for among the 39 pieces of ID.
We've also heard from some witnesses, certainly one who came here and had done very thorough research and came up with a bit of a matrix, I think, that showed he couldn't find an example of a voter who wouldn't be able to vote.
We had a professor come here from the States who'd done extensive research in terms of some of the states that had switched to requiring voter ID there. The research had shown that there didn't really seem to be any link between those requirements and the turnout in those subsequent elections. In fact, there were examples in the United States where the turnout had actually increased in subsequent elections following the requirement.
But certainly he indicated that his feeling was, through the research he had done, that interest in the political system was the key determinant in voting. I don't think there'll be anyone who would disagree with that particular statement.
Having said that, I do understand that you share concerns—we don't necessarily agree—on that particular provision of the bill. So what I would like to do is to give you an opportunity as well to talk about any of the other aspects of the bill, because you have had some time, obviously, to speak to this. We do appreciate you coming here and sharing your comments, even though we may not necessarily agree. But certainly I'm sure you must have had an opportunity to look at other aspects of the bill.
What I would like to do is just provide you an opportunity. It's quite an extensive bill. There are a number of changes to our elections law that will obviously, we believe, create a greater confidence in our electoral system through a number of different methods. It certainly eliminates some of the voting fraud that may exist or is certainly at great risk of existing with some of the provisions that are in there now. When you look at the idea of vouching, obviously, with the significant errors that have been identified with that, there is certainly a risk there.
But the bill does a number of other things. It looks to protect voters from rogue calls through this public registry for mass calling. That's an example. I guess I'd leave it at that one example, just because I'd like to give you the opportunity.
Can you tell us one or two things from the bill that you've identified that you feel would be good changes? I know you've indicated that you feel—