This is the same subcommittee that deals with the Ethics Commissioner. Do you remember when the Ethics Commissioner decided that anything that cost $30 was a problem? We kind of thought, you know, we may be easy, but we're not cheap. Thirty dollars was a bit too low as the level at which you had to declare things.
I think this is the danger with this sort of thing. An after the fact ruling could come down as being something like that. In all fairness, though, if I were the CEO and l looked at it and it said “any”, I would say that any means any, and Parliament has spoken. So we would find ourselves getting involved with a problem there.
My own sense also is that if we tried to do...and I think Professor Scott was being very helpful and had a good idea when he said—I wrote it down—in the form of gifts, goods, or services. I know what he's trying to get at, or I think I know what he's trying to get at.
Again, to use a real-life example from the leadership race for the Conservative Party that I was involved in about a decade ago, to my understanding, and I could be wrong on this, Belinda Stronach was flown around the country in one of her family's corporate jets. That would seem to be the kind of thing, I think, that you're trying to get in there.
How you make sure that gets in and not the home-baked apple pie which the nice lady from down the road made to feed the volunteers—