I know that the member is going to find this difficult to understand, but rule 4.1 is about using House of Commons' money to rent parliamentary office space. The NDP did not use House of Commons' money. That's what's been established. I will offer again; they haven't accepted the offer. I will give him every single cheque, for every single month, that the office was open. Every penny was paid for by the party. That became a problem in April 2014, and we respected it. It was never House of Commons' money. That's what he doesn't seem to understand.
On May 15th, 2014. See this statement in context.