Evidence of meeting #81 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was election.

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Marc Mayrand  Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada

12:35 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada

Marc Mayrand

I suspect that there are larger concentrations in certain countries. Certainly the United States comes to mind, and probably the U.K. There are probably a few other countries in Europe—maybe France. That's an analysis that could be done. I don't have it.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

Okay. The other part of my question would be, do you have a sense of where those 6,000 votes went? Did they basically go across the country in some sort of an equal pattern?

12:35 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada

Marc Mayrand

It's very much distributed. I am not aware of any significant concentration in any riding. There are always a few in pretty much all ridings. It's fairly distributed.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

When we're talking about 6,000 and 308 ridings, it would be interesting to see how they are distributed. I'm wondering if it's possible for you to give us at some future time the location of where those 6,000—or 10,000, actually, who would have the right to vote—are distributed.

12:35 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada

Marc Mayrand

It's probably doable. I'm just thinking that with the official voting results candidates probably have a good sense of how many Canadians from abroad voted in their riding, but I can try to do an analysis.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

I have no idea in my own riding.

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada

Marc Mayrand

You could probably find it if you were to look at the official voting results. How many voted by—

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

Okay. I know that we see the military number, but I....

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada

Marc Mayrand

You would get the others, too, for all groups using special voting rules.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

Okay, but I'm thinking your office would have that, if you would.

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada

Marc Mayrand

Yes. We'll provide you a table.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

I appreciate that very much.

That's the end of my questions.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Joe Preston

That's the end of your time.

We'll go on to Mr. Lukiwski for four minutes, please.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Thank you very much.

I have one question to ask, but before I do, I think I am going to follow up a little bit on what Mr. Reid was saying.

I believe he was trying to get at a situation that might be best summarized as this. Currently, as I understand the rules, someone could have lived in Canada for 10 years and then have moved back to Lebanon, to use Lebanon as an example. He has never returned to Canada but has maintained his Canadian citizenship. He has fathered many children, who are of voting age. They would become Canadian citizens, but they have never set foot in Canada. They would be allowed to vote under the current rules. Is that correct?

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada

Marc Mayrand

No. You must have resided in Canada at some point. Even with the Frank decision, that's my understanding. You must have resided in Canada at some point.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Okay.

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada

Marc Mayrand

“Residing” means more than just visiting.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

Okay. I'll go back to my initial question, which you answered. Once they have chosen or been allocated a riding in which they cast their ballots, it's frozen. They can never change. What happens if someone comes back to Canada, changes residency, and then goes abroad again?

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada

Marc Mayrand

They would have to go online and register again, because they would have been struck from the National Register of Electors when they moved out of Canada.

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

How long would they have to be in Canada to be considered a resident?

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada

Marc Mayrand

The act doesn't provide a time test, a substantive test of whether they're actually a resident in Canada: is that their ordinary place of residence?

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

That's interesting, because then, theoretically, or hypothetically I suppose, someone could come back to Canada for a visit for a month.

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada

Marc Mayrand

That's not ordinary residence. On that point, I would argue, and we would decline to register them, saying—

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Tom Lukiwski Conservative Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre, SK

How do you determine ordinary residence?

12:40 p.m.

Chief Electoral Officer, Elections Canada

Marc Mayrand

Is that the place where you normally go when you have visited all the other places you wanted to visit? Is that the place to where you return?