Evidence of meeting #107 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was travel.

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MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Lauzon
Jill McKenny  Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

5:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

He just wants to have in the motion the names of the cities that we're going to.

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

We're the ones asking to actually go through the legislation. You're the ones wanting to ram it through. There's no problem with getting us to go through the legislation.

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Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

That's why I put under number six that the proposed travel—

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Well, I don't believe it's appropriate to discuss a motion that is undefined. Tell us what your motion is in relation to travel.

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An hon. member

[Inaudible—Editor]

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

We have not agreed to that, so put it in the motion.

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Liberal

Andy Fillmore Liberal Halifax, NS

[Inaudible—Editor] chance to approve it.

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

No, it's not, because you guys refused to agree to it, so you have to put it in your motion. You can't have it both ways.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Read it in.

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Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

Okay. Still going in the same order that I had laid out earlier.... I think you can go back to the record, but anyway, number one was—

Would you like me to reread it all so that it's clarified?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Just read the travel clause.

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Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

Okay.

The travel clause, I guess, would go from being number one to number six from what you guys got yesterday, right? It would be that the committee travel across Canada from June 4, 2018, until June 8, 2018, and the clerk be authorized to organize travel with meetings in communities in the following regions: Atlantic Canada...and I think we should specify all the communities that we've just named today in numbered order...and that the travel budget be approved.

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A voice

As described....

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Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

Yes.

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An hon. member

[Inaudible—Editor]

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Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

I don't know [Inaudible—Editor]. You can say “as described”. No, it's not.... It's Vancouver rather than.... This is an estimate, right? We can be clearer in number six about the cities that we've mentioned, the locations we've mentioned, and then add “and that the travel budget be approved.”

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

We're being asked to debate a motion that no one can even tell us the wording of.

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Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

I'll just read it out to you again, Blake. I mean—

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

What I would require is to actually hear the wording of the motion not these vague concepts that are being thrown around here.

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Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

It's not a vague concept. We've sat here for two hours and discussed—

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

It is.

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Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

No. The cities, the—

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

If you want to pass a motion—

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Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

—journey, which way—

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

This is the way you guys want to do things. This is the way you guys want to do it.