Evidence of meeting #107 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was travel.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Lauzon
Jill McKenny  Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

We have a list. Mr. Nater, you were next on the list.

4 p.m.

Conservative

John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON

No.

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Mr. Graham.

4 p.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

I don't have anything.

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Mr. Garrison is gone.

Ms. Tassi, you are on the list.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Filomena Tassi Liberal Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas, ON

I have a couple of things to clarify.

First of all, I heard $100,000 more, but can we get some information on cost?

4 p.m.

Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

Absolutely.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Filomena Tassi Liberal Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas, ON

The cost of commercial versus charter.

4 p.m.

Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

The cost of the commercial flights would be $146,593.20.

The cost with a charter would be $249,668.60.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Filomena Tassi Liberal Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas, ON

Are you satisfied that with this order, with these places, and with the timing that we can do commercial, and it would be satisfactory?

May 29th, 2018 / 4 p.m.

Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

It seems feasible knowing that you're only wanting to meet for three hours. We would likely be able to be there by 1 p.m. and leave by 4 p.m., so that gives the three-hour chunk.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Filomena Tassi Liberal Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas, ON

I appreciate the challenge that you have, and I'm thankful for the work that you're doing.

I'm wondering if we could get clarification, because the timing is so tight, in terms of what other information you need logistically to make this happen, and whether we should consider giving the chair some discretion. You're saying you think you can make it happen, but if something comes up and there's a problem with one of the legs of the journey, I'm going to propose that we give the chair the authority to make a decision. Timing is tight. I don't know that we're going to have an opportunity to get back together because next week is when we're beginning to travel.

It's those two things, the logistics you need and, of course, at the committee level, about the authority for the chair.

4 p.m.

Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

Right, so what we require from you are the names of the travellers, of course, and where they'll be flying from to join the committee at the first stop and where they'll be flying to at the end.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Filomena Tassi Liberal Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas, ON

I'm thinking as well of the logistics of arranging the actual places where we're going to go...spaces and those sorts of things. The details...for example, witness lists. Do we need to have the witness list today in order to arrange for the witnesses to be available at the time that we're travelling?

If you can, that will help us, because we want to make this happen, and we just need the information that you need.

4 p.m.

The Clerk

The witness names or witness list would be helpful as early as possible. Obviously, we won't be able to communicate with them until we know whom the committee wants to meet with.

Once I get them from you, I have to have some sense, too, of how the lists are going to be balanced for each meeting space. Are we going to try to have a dozen witnesses at each location? Are we talking about a two-hour formal meeting? Are you thinking two panels of four or five?

4 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

More than that gets a bit crowded. The witnesses don't get to talk much and we don't get to ask them much.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Filomena Tassi Liberal Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas, ON

Yes.

4 p.m.

The Clerk

Is there a proportion that you'd like to have for each party?

4 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

How do we do it when we're having a witness set of hearings in Ottawa? There's a proportionality to the witnesses when they come.

4 p.m.

An hon. member

Uh, oh.

4 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

Yes, we have 30 minutes until the votes.

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

We have 30 minutes.

4 p.m.

Liberal

Filomena Tassi Liberal Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas, ON

There's another point. Do you need to know from us the actual location of the places we're going to?

4 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

It sounds to me as though we've worked that out.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

We'll have the conversation after that, right?