Evidence of meeting #107 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was travel.

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MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Lauzon
Jill McKenny  Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

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Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

If we approach that in one city, then consistency is key, in order for the logistics to make sense.

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Okay.

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Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

One thing I had suggested up front, though, was for the meetings to be together. If we had the expert panel, the open session would be immediately after, without a break, so we have it compact. If it's afternoon or evening, we can travel during the day, and then head into the session and have it all together within the three-hour period, with maybe two hours of expert testimony and one hour of open mike, depending how many witnesses we have in any given city.

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

The challenge being outlined here, though, is that because of the flight, the time changes, and things such as that, if we were to do it, we'd have to fly either in the evening or in the morning.

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Liberal

Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON

In the morning.

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

If we use the red-eye flight, we can leave at midnight and get in at 6 a.m. If we don't do that—and it isn't the best thing to do, although I've done it a number of times because it had to be done—then we leave on the earliest flight, at 6 a.m. or 7:00 a.m., or whatever it is, and we lose half a day because of the time change and everything. That's what you're getting at, isn't it?

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Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

If your idea is to have your public hearings in the afternoon and evening, you're travelling in the morning and doing your public hearings in the afternoon and evening. However, in order to get from Olds to Toronto, there's that gap and the time change. You'll need to leave a little earlier and you'll eat into some of that time at Olds College. That is, unless you're doing a charter, in which case you have a lot more flexibility.

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Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

As well, you'll have a lot more free time at the spot.

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Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

If we could leave early in the morning, and if we're saying we're going to do just afternoons and evenings in Toronto, would there be a flight to facilitate that? There has to be a 6 a.m. or 7 a.m. flight, or something such as that.

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Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

Right. Your idea would be to start a little earlier in Olds, finish earlier, and then head to Toronto on an afternoon flight.

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

That's possible too, but based on what I thought I heard Ruby say, we'd have afternoon and evening sessions in Toronto. That would allow us the time in Olds. We could stay overnight near the Calgary airport and then fly out on the first, or one of the first, available flights the next morning, which would put us in Toronto by—

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Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

It would be 1:15 p.m. You'll get out of the airport at around two o'clock and you'll be downtown around three o'clock. It becomes a little later start in Toronto.

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

[Inaudible—Editor] closer to the airport.

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Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

There's that, absolutely.

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

Then we can have an extra hour and make it two o'clock.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Before we go any further, Mr. Garrison has just joined us and he has no idea what we're talking about.

I'll just explain that we're looking at potential travel for the committee next week to the five regions of Canada: to four major cities in four of those regions, and to a rural community in the fifth region. We're just discussing the logistics.

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NDP

Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Saanich—Sooke, BC

Thank you, sir.

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Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

[Inaudible—Editor]

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Yes, but we are going to finish hearing from the logistics coordinator.

Carry on.

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Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

You do have other options. You can travel from east to west with the travel in the morning and public hearings in the afternoon. That allows a little more flexibility for the travel and for the public hearings to occur in the afternoon. However, it would then not be possible to go to Olds College and to the indigenous community as well.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

It's Tsawwassen.

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Coordinator, Logistics Services, House of Commons

Jill McKenny

Tsawwassen.

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The Clerk

If the committee has other suggestions—

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Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

Are you done?