Evidence of meeting #112 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was third.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Vivian Krause  Researcher and Writer, As an Individual
Gary Rozon  Auditor, Gary Rozon CMA Inc., As an Individual
Anna Di Carlo  National Leader, National Headquarters, Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada
Talis Brauns  Mediation Officer, Marijuana Party
Marc Chénier  General Counsel and Senior Director, Legal Services, Office of the Commissioner of Canada Elections
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Andrew Lauzon
John Turmel  As an Individual
Brian Marlatt  Communications and Policy Director, Progressive Canadian Party

9 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Mr. Reid, you can question your witness.

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Thank you.

You indicated we had one questioner per party. I think what you meant was one seven-minute slot. Would it be acceptable if I split my time with Mr. Kelly?

9 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Yes.

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Thank you.

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Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

You have six minutes to go.

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

I wanted to ask Mr. Turmel this question. I grew up in Ottawa. You've been a fixture on the Ottawa scene since I can remember, and I'm old. Have you ever been a witness at a parliamentary committee before?

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

This is the first time.

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As an Individual

John Turmel

Yes, that's why it was such an honour. I'm trying to get in, or have a winner understand what I'm saying. To be invited was nice. You're a bunch of winners.

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

I just want you to know that my own experience was that I was invited to testify as a witness before this very committee in March 2000, and I was first elected to the House of Commons in November, so this may be a sign of things to come. That's a true story.

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Liberal

Scott Simms Liberal Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

[Inaudible—Editor] my riding.

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

You raised the issue of getting some kind of receipt for casting your ballot. While I think you point to a legitimate problem, I want to ask this question. I think there's already a legitimate and effective solution, which is that although your ballot itself is anonymous, when it's torn off, there is what they call a counterfoil on it—a stub. That counterfoil matches up with a number that's left behind with the officer who tore it off and gave it to you when you—

9 p.m.

As an Individual

John Turmel

Excuse me, are you telling me there are already numbers on the paper? I want a piece of paper with the number; I don't want an online number that they can change.

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

No, it's not online. It's a piece of paper—

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As an Individual

John Turmel

All right.

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

—called a counterfoil. It's actually written up in the legislation, but the next time you go in to cast a ballot—are you going to be in Chicoutimi for the election, to cast a ballot?

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As an Individual

John Turmel

Am I going to what?

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Are you going to be back for the by-election? You can cast a ballot.... I guess you don't have residency, so you can actually...

9:05 p.m.

As an Individual

John Turmel

No, I live in Brantford and I can vote for mayor, and I live in Brant and I can vote for member of—

9:05 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Yes, if you're a contestant in a riding—

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As an Individual

John Turmel

—but not Chicoutimi.

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

No, you don't live there, but if you're a contestant, a candidate, you can vote in the riding. If you go there, you'll have the chance to cast your ballot and see the actual—

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

What if it's the MP?