Evidence of meeting #121 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was information.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell
That would be the easiest way.
Is there unanimous consent to do that?
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Conservative
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Liberal
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Liberal
Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON
It wouldn't approve the motion. It would just be approving the date so it would be a logical motion now and would not be in the past.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell
Does everyone consider that to be a friendly amendment to the motion?
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Liberal
Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON
Okay. I would like to formally move an amendment to my motion then.
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON
I know what Ruby wants to do, and it's a reasonable thing. I know we're technically on my point of order, but if she can explain what it is she wants to do, I think that would add some light to it and it would be helpful in disposing of the point of order.
Maybe we could have Reid's codicil to the Simms protocol which says that even when it's a point of order, someone can interrupt to deal with something that will bring context.
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Liberal
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Liberal
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Liberal
Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON
The point of order was on that point, which would resolve the point of order and no longer require the point of order to be made—
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Liberal
Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON
—if the original motion was amended.
So I propose that amendment to the original motion. That is my motion, to begin with, that the date now be revised to Thursday, October 4.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell
Unfortunately, we have to deal with the subamendment to the amendment first, and then the amendment, and then your amendment.
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON
Right.
Going back to the point of order...that was helpful.
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Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON
Procedurally, there are several ways one could go about this. One could seek to amend the current motion, which I think is what Ruby just proposed to do and which I think can be done only by unanimous consent.
The second thing one could do would be to simply seek to withdraw the initial motion entirely. I'm not sure if it's all right to transfer things.
Finally, we still have to deal with the fact that we're on a subamendment.
There was the initial motion. There was—
October 2nd, 2018 / 12:10 p.m.
Conservative
Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON
Right, but procedurally we can still dig our way out.
The amendment was that the committee not commence clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-76 on Tuesday, October 2, 2018, at 11 a.m.
The first motion would have been nonsensical and therefore would have been made moot by the passage of time. Given the fact that we're talking about not doing something at a point in the past, I think it still would be in order if that amendment were actually to pass.
Finally, there was my own amendment to the amendment. This was before the committee had heard from the Ontario chief electoral officer “nor until the committee has heard from the Minister for Democratic Institutions for not less than one hour”.
I'll just stop there.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell
Okay.
Ms. Sahota, you're on the list.
You're just debating Mr. Reid's subamendment to the amendment.
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Liberal
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Liberal
Ruby Sahota Liberal Brampton North, ON
The reason I was raising my hand originally was to get on the list first so that I could propose the revision to my original motion so it wouldn't be nonsensical at this point. That's the reason I had my hand up.
