Evidence of meeting #123 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Linda Lapointe  Rivière-des-Mille-Îles, Lib.
Stephanie Kusie  Calgary Midnapore, CPC
Jean-François Morin  Senior Policy Advisor, Privy Council Office
Manon Paquet  Senior Policy Advisor, Privy Council Office

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

To our witnesses, if we start passing some of these amendments and make it 57 days and we refuse other ones, what happens?

6:40 p.m.

NDP

Nathan Cullen NDP Skeena—Bulkley Valley, BC

A day off?

6:40 p.m.

Liberal

David Graham Liberal Laurentides—Labelle, QC

I rest my case.

6:45 p.m.

Calgary Midnapore, CPC

Stephanie Kusie

I want to campaign forever.

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

All in favour of CPC-17?

6:45 p.m.

Calgary Midnapore, CPC

Stephanie Kusie

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

We can go on to CPC-18 now because that was defeated.

6:45 p.m.

Calgary Midnapore, CPC

Stephanie Kusie

Stephanie, you're on again.

6:45 p.m.

Calgary Midnapore, CPC

Stephanie Kusie

Yes, I'm going to get used to this for tomorrow, let me tell you.

I'm having a hard time seeing what the difference is between this and CPC-15, because it refers to a 57-day maximum writ period and a writ issued between November 11 and 30. I feel we defeated this already, essentially.

6:45 p.m.

Conservative

John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON

Again, this clause is only for elections that have been rescheduled based on a death or a natural disaster.

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Okay, so it's the same Christmas period, but on rescheduled elections.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Next is CPC-19.

6:45 p.m.

Calgary Midnapore, CPC

Stephanie Kusie

Again, I see this as being similar to CPC-16, increasing it to the 57-day maximum for other arrangements, such as Groundhog Day, I guess.

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

There doesn't seem to be any appetite for these extensions, so can we have a vote?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

NDP-5 is lost because it's consequential to NDP-1.

(Clause 48 agreed to on division)

There are no amendments on clauses 49 to 51, unless we have a new one there.

(Clauses 49 to 51 inclusive agreed to)

(On clause 52)

On CPC-20, go ahead, Ms. Kusie.

6:45 p.m.

Calgary Midnapore, CPC

Stephanie Kusie

This prohibits responsible officers of third parties that fail to file expense reports from being candidates, mirroring the current rules for candidates and official agents.

It makes sense to me that if an officer of a third party failed to file an expense report, then they would have essentially broken the rule and requirement in an effort to be a candidate or official agent. It makes sense to me also because of the government's efforts to provide transparency and accountability for third parties.

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Could we have the PCO give us a comment on that?

6:45 p.m.

LCdr Jean-François Morin

Section 65 of the Canada Elections Act currently provides ineligibility criteria for candidates, and paragraph 65(i) says that a person who was a candidate or an official agent and basically failed to provide his or her returns is then ineligible to be a candidate again in a future election.

However, paragraph 65(i) applies only to former candidates; it doesn't apply, for example, to the official agent of any other registered entity under the act.

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

You're saying part of this is already covered—

6:45 p.m.

LCdr Jean-François Morin

No, no—

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

—and part is not covered.

6:45 p.m.

LCdr Jean-François Morin

No, I'm just saying that the amendment would create the situation that, for example, the financial agent of the party who did not file on behalf of the party would be able to run as a candidate, but the financial agent of a third party, which is more remote from the election process, would be ineligible to file as candidate.

6:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

That doesn't make any sense, does it? That doesn't make any sense; it's an inequity, right?

6:50 p.m.

LCdr Jean-François Morin

It's a policy choice, Mr. Chair.

6:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Okay.

Mr. Nater is next, and then Mr. Bittle.

6:50 p.m.

Conservative

John Nater Conservative Perth—Wellington, ON

Mr. Chair, I think it's just a fairness issue. If I as a candidate fail to file reports, I can't run as a candidate. I think it would be the same for a third party's responsible person. If he or she fails to file reports, he or she should also suffer similar consequences and be unable to run as a candidate as well.

6:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

I think the Elections Canada person was saying that the official agents of parties one and two are not prohibited, so this would just prohibit party three and put the third party at a disadvantage, but not the first two parties.