Evidence of meeting #24 for Procedure and House Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was breach.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Marc Bosc  Acting Clerk, House of Commons
Philippe Dufresne  Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel
Andre Barnes  Committee Researcher

12:20 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Who do you want to give me?

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

I'm just trying to understand. The chief government whip is not a member of the executive council...well actually he is, so I take it back. I'm just trying to find who would be the responsible ministerial—

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

I think we should research—

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Can we get back to you on that?

12:20 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Agreed. I was watching the clock.

Where are we?

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

They'll get back to you on that when they find out who's responsible.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

It appears that it's on the Privy Council Office website.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

All right, and then the motion that some yet-unnamed person from the government appear before us to speak to what the policy is, then you can fill in the blank.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Okay. We know it is from the Privy Council Office; we will advise you once we get the right elected official.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I appreciate that. I'm staying with the elected person, going with the idea that we're the ones who are front-line accountable. If you want to bring somebody else, let's talk about it, but I'd rather deal with other elected people right now.

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Blake Richards Conservative Banff—Airdrie, AB

I guess I'd also point out that the whip was here during the discussion today for quite some time. He must have felt he had something to offer or to add in some way. There were some questions Mr. Christopherson had that I think would have been appropriately answered by him. He was the one who got up in the House and made the apology, which apparently wasn't an apology because now we're not sure if there was something to apologize for, but anyway, we'll determine that, I guess. He obviously felt he had something to add or something to contribute since he was here. I still think it would be advisable for him to be called.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

[Inaudible—Editor] and we'll just deal with calling the minister? You can decide whether you agree or disagree.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Yes. Bring some information. We'll deal with it at the next meeting.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Okay. We'll have something by Thursday.

12:20 p.m.

NDP

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Okay, I can live with that.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

We'll go back to Mr. Reid's motion.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

Can we amend it to “the Minister of Justice”, to request the Minister of Justice?

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

“...that the Minister of Justice be invited to appear as a witness as soon as possible before the committee”?

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Do we even do friendly amendments in Parliament or is that a Robert's Rules of Order thing?

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

You move it and I'll second it, okay?

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Fair enough. I think this makes it procedurally correct. I'll be happy to remove my last one and put this one forward. I don't know if seconding is necessary, but thank you, Mr. Chan.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

Arnold Chan Liberal Scarborough—Agincourt, ON

It's not necessary, but okay, I'll support it.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

As soon as possible, right?

12:20 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Yes, as soon as conveniently possible. We all understand she has some other stuff on her plate.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Larry Bagnell

Okay. Is there any discussion on the motion?

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Mr. Christopherson.