Okay, sorry.
I can't speak to the details of the conversation I had with Mr. Chan, because that was private, but I raised that with him.
The purpose here is that this actually provides some opportunity for discussion. It's not the ideal way of doing it, but I think it allows her to do what she has said she wants to do, and it allows her, as well, to get some feedback from us in advance on those four or five items she says she'll be moving forward. I can't speak for anybody other than myself, but my suspicion is that she would find the kind of input that I know I would like to have to potentially be helpful on those items.
Frankly, the things that I personally found most problematic in the discussion paper are no longer part of what she's putting forward. I would add, as well, that some of those things were specifically enumerated in the Liberal election platform, and hence her point about their having a mandate and no one should have a veto over it is stronger on those. I can see those points, but I do think she might find it helpful. I know we would find it helpful as well, if that could be done.
That was my sales pitch for the motion.